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Grizzly shot #8158750
06/21/24 09:40 PM
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A hunter misidentified a young grizzly while hunting over bait near me and shot it. This is a shoutout to our Fish and Game. The hunter had filmed the bear twice and sent the film into Fish and Game asking if it was a grizzly and they said no. They didn't ticket the hunter as they had also misidentified the bear. I hear so many horror stories about C.O.s that I wanted to say I believe here in Idaho we have some great ones.


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158753
06/21/24 09:50 PM
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He's not out of the woods yet if the feds can find a way they'll try to jack him up.

We had a mountain lion shot here back 08. No state charges as there was no closed season or laws against it. Initially thought to be an escaped captive but DNA showed it to be Florida one that had wandered north. The feds got the guy.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/...-two-years-probation-banned/15891929007/


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158754
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An adult black/ grizz are easily identified.
Young ones not so much.


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: warrior] #8158760
06/21/24 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
He's not out of the woods yet if the feds can find a way they'll try to jack him up.

We had a mountain lion shot here back 08. No state charges as there was no closed season or laws against it. Initially thought to be an escaped captive but DNA showed it to be Florida one that had wandered north. The feds got the guy.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/...-two-years-probation-banned/15891929007/



There is no OPEN season in Georgia for cougars...therefore the season is always closed....which means it is illegal to kill a cougar/mountain lion/Florida panther in Georgia.


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8158764
06/21/24 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by warrior
He's not out of the woods yet if the feds can find a way they'll try to jack him up.

We had a mountain lion shot here back 08. No state charges as there was no closed season or laws against it. Initially thought to be an escaped captive but DNA showed it to be Florida one that had wandered north. The feds got the guy.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/...-two-years-probation-banned/15891929007/



There is no OPEN season in Georgia for cougars...therefore the season is always closed....which means it is illegal to kill a cougar/mountain lion/Florida panther in Georgia.


My understanding is that at the time there wasn't, hence no state charges. I may be mistaken in that but if so why no state charges then?

The DNR initial public statements were suspected captive escapee which would've been legal(?).


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158765
06/21/24 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SundanceMtnMan
A hunter misidentified a young grizzly while hunting over bait near me and shot it. This is a shoutout to our Fish and Game. The hunter had filmed the bear twice and sent the film into Fish and Game asking if it was a grizzly and they said no. They didn't ticket the hunter as they had also misidentified the bear. I hear so many horror stories about C.O.s that I wanted to say I believe here in Idaho we have some great ones.

He filmed it no question, the feds can go to the local DNR with questions.

Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158766
06/21/24 10:23 PM
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The closed season has been in place for many decades. It was in place when that big cat was shot. I can't remember the details, but state officers can turn federal violations over to USFWS.

The article you posted states that there is no open season, also.

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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158775
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Killing a Griz without a warranted circumstantial reason or legal authorization is a Fed Crime.


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8158789
06/21/24 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by warrior
He's not out of the woods yet if the feds can find a way they'll try to jack him up.

We had a mountain lion shot here back 08. No state charges as there was no closed season or laws against it. Initially thought to be an escaped captive but DNA showed it to be Florida one that had wandered north. The feds got the guy.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/...-two-years-probation-banned/15891929007/



There is no OPEN season in Georgia for cougars...therefore the season is always closed....which means it is illegal to kill a cougar/mountain lion/Florida panther in Georgia.

That is not the case in every State. That's how it is in Alaska, but in Washington, if it's not classified as a fur bearer or game animal, and if it isn't specifically a protected species, it is then an unclassified species and may be killed at will; eg. opposums, hogs, fallow deer, etc..


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158793
06/21/24 11:47 PM
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Hard to imagine how many wolves have died in Minnesota in the last few years.


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158888
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I delivered rural mail and twice I brought Certified letters from USFWS with tickets after local CO turned investigation over.


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158896
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I know this makes to much sense to be considered reasonable thinking, but if the hunter had pictures of it and the State Game Dept said not a Griz the blame for misidentifying falls on the state not the hunter. If hunter gets fed ticket pass it to the state

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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158911
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Good thing he had the correspondence in writing. They could have still wrote him a ticket but it would have been embarrassing for them imo.

Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SJA] #8158912
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Originally Posted by SJA
Killing a Griz without a warranted circumstantial reason or legal authorization is a Fed Crime.



Easy to say when you are not the one dealing with them on the left coast. I can’t imagine the number that have had to be SSS over the past several decades due to the unwillingness of our bureaucracies to deal with issues that they themselves have. If you make your living and feed your family trying to raise livestock, or are an outfitter, in the areas that these griz and wolves have been left unmolested for decades you would have a different view I’d be willing to bet. Regardless of what the alphabet agencies think….


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: TC1] #8158917
06/22/24 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TC1
Originally Posted by SJA
Killing a Griz without a warranted circumstantial reason or legal authorization is a Fed Crime.



Easy to say when you are not the one dealing with them on the left coast. I can’t imagine the number that have had to be SSS over the past several decades due to the unwillingness of our bureaucracies to deal with issues that they themselves have. If you make your living and feed your family trying to raise livestock, or are an outfitter, in the areas that these griz and wolves have been left unmolested for decades you would have a different view I’d be willing to bet. Regardless of what the alphabet agencies think….

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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158922
06/22/24 09:31 AM
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In Georgia, the cougar is listed as a game animal...with no open season. So, the season is always closed.

The guy that shot the young grizzly, after checking with Idaho G&F, should be left alone by state and federal LE.


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158928
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For years in MN, the DNR denied the existence of cougars in MN. So, if that was the case, you should be able to legally shoot one since they don't exist here at that time. crazy


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158930
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The DNR lies! They do it thoughtout the country.

Re: Grizzly shot [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8158932
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Us GWs here in Georgia, told folks that asked about cougars/panthers.....that it was legal to shoot the black ones....but not the brown ones.....lol


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Re: Grizzly shot [Re: Guss] #8158935
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Originally Posted by Guss
The DNR lies! They do it thoughtout the country.

After many photos submitted to local news stations, the DNR in MN has finally admitted there are occasionally cougars that wander into MN.


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