Shot shell reloaders : why
#8161968
06/27/24 06:09 PM
06/27/24 06:09 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2013
Amite county Mississippi
Wolfdog91
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jul 2013
Amite county Mississippi
|
About to start creeping into it . Just curious for y'all who don't a good bit, why do you reload shot shells ? Money savings? Customs loads for a certain deal ? Just like messing with stuff ? Also gotta say it's an interesting deal compared to metallic on one hand they say you need to be super careful and follow the book 100% ( apparently waaay more then metallic) and on the other people are haut shoving whatever into a hull putting a roll crimp on it and shooting it with no problems, it's kinda neat ..in a crazy confused kinda way lol
Last edited by Wolfdog91; 06/27/24 06:21 PM.
YouTube expert
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8161969
06/27/24 06:15 PM
06/27/24 06:15 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
|
"Grumpy Old Man"
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
|
Versatility, a few different bags of shot and wads. A grocery sack full of hulls, some powder and primers, and whatever you want a shotgun for is at your fingertips. No running to every ammo store within 50 miles to get what your after.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8161980
06/27/24 06:27 PM
06/27/24 06:27 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
ny
upstateNY
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Aug 2008
ny
|
About to start creeping into it . Just curious for y'all who don't a good bit, why do you reload shot shells ? Money savings? Customs loads for a certain deal ? Just like messing with stuff ? Also gotta say it's an interesting deal compared to metallic on one hand they say you need to be super careful and follow the book 100% ( apparently waaay more then metallic) and on the other people are haut shoving whatever into a hull putting a roll crimp on it and shooting it with no problems, it's kinda neat ..in a crazy confused kinda way lol When I was realy into shooting Skeet,,I was shooting over 1,000 rounds a week.I started reloading mostly for the savings.I was reloading for less than half price of bought shells.Once I started,,I reloaded all my own shotshells including hunting loads.I was loading my own Duplex Buffered loads long before they were available on the market.GO BY THE BOOK. 
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8161982
06/27/24 06:31 PM
06/27/24 06:31 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Very SE Nebraska
Gary Benson
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Very SE Nebraska
|
Just to know how to do it. Shotgun powder is much more forgiving than handgun powder. I had a .45 blow up in my hand. I'm more cautious now.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162003
06/27/24 06:49 PM
06/27/24 06:49 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
Yes sir
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
|
For the money savings when I use to shoot more. There's not really a performance difference like in rifles per say so other than $ savings I wouldn't really see any other reason unless it's like Danny said, you just want to have the components on hand to load up whatever you want whenever you want
Now me and the boys may only shoot a case or two a year so I just buy them prepacked
Last edited by Yes sir; 06/27/24 06:51 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Yes sir]
#8162008
06/27/24 07:03 PM
06/27/24 07:03 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
ny
upstateNY
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Aug 2008
ny
|
There's not really a performance difference I beg to differ on that.I found my roll my owns to be more consistent than store bought.
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162015
06/27/24 07:12 PM
06/27/24 07:12 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
|
"Grumpy Old Man"
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
|
Black powder is great for those old SXS. Just be sure to give a thorough cleaning after every time you shoot. Grandson has been shooting black powder in an old damascus barreled gun. Takes 2 1/2 shells. I just cut 2 3/4 hulls back to the line the crimp makes on the hull and glue in an over shot card. A dram of black powder is approximately 27.34 grains
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: upstateNY]
#8162047
06/27/24 07:53 PM
06/27/24 07:53 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
Yes sir
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
|
There's not really a performance difference I beg to differ on that.I found my roll my owns to be more consistent than store bought. U could be right I just couldn't see the difference shooting quail
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162052
06/27/24 07:54 PM
06/27/24 07:54 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
WI
T-Rex
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
WI
|
Load em: - hot
- subsonic
- heavy
- light
- buck
- slug
- long 3-1/2"
- short 1-3/4"
I'd write a list but the internet probably ain't big enough to handle it. Did i mention that you have a bit of flexibilities in your loads. Maybe even some choke options.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: T-Rex]
#8162057
06/27/24 08:02 PM
06/27/24 08:02 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2018
S.E. Wi
Chukar
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2018
S.E. Wi
|
Load em: - hot
- subsonic
- heavy
- light
- buck
- slug
- long
- short
I'd write a list but the internet probably ain't big enough to handle it. Did i mention that you have a bit of flexibilities in your loads. Maybe even some choke options. Especially with non toxic and buckshot. You can customize a load to your particular gun/ choke combination. It's just like finding a "pet" load for your rifle. I have a 20ga 18 pellet #4 buckshot load for one of my 500 mossbergs that's throwing 85 to 90% in a 20" at 40 yards. Same load moving 100-150 fps slower patterns great in a shockwave.
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162084
06/27/24 08:30 PM
06/27/24 08:30 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Hilton, NY
Paul D. Heppner
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Oct 2011
Hilton, NY
|
I find loading shot shells to be quite therapeutic. When I'm at the press no one else is allowed in the room, not even the dog. When I'm clicking right along I can put out a box of shells in approximately 3 minutes for the 12. When I start I go thru the whole bag of shot. That's 400 one ounce loads in the 12, 457 7/8 ounce in the twenty, 533 3/4 ounce in the 28, and 800 1/2 ounce in the 410. I don't do any 410 very often as I don't use it much and they are a real pain to load. I use MEC 9000G presses. For the 12 I'm saving about $.80 per box. The others, a lot less of a saving because of the powders that I use. I have an acquaintance that has the appropriate pressure testing equipment and the expertise to use it, all my loads have been tested and are quite safe. All the MEC presses drop powder and shot by volume and can vary. Powder will vary by a tenth or two which falls in the realm of DMS. Using a progressive the powder bushing will generally drop a little light, the single stage presses will be a tad heavy. Hence a good scale and a good selection of powder bushings is a good idea. The difference being the single stage is cycled a lot more between powder drops. Shot charges vary slightly according to shot size and alloy. There are bars that are calibrated to specific weights and shot sizes for anal trap and skeet shooters. If you are shooting competitively you should really be using factory ammo. In some instances it's required. I don't use chilled shot, it's too soft and deforms on ignition and travelling down the barrel. I use only magnum (hard) shot. It deforms less and patterns better.
Years ago I would go thru 20 to 25 thousand handloads a year. I have always used factory shells in competition. These days I go thru a little over 5 thousand. I like the performance I get from my loads and I didn't have any issues getting ammo during the recent shortages. I buy wads and primers by the case. Powder by the 8 pound keg, two kegs to the case. Usually I buy 10 bags of shot at a time. And I have several 30 gallon plastic barrels full of once fired Remington Gun Club and STS cases. There is a half bushel each of 28ga and 410 AA in the basement somewhere. They are all free for the bending over and picking them up when I'm refereeing an event. I load them four times, five at the most and toss them.
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162132
06/27/24 09:20 PM
06/27/24 09:20 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Missouri
HayDay
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Mar 2018
Missouri
|
I started loading for shotguns before I was old enough to drive. These days, don't load and shoot nearly enough to even justify the equipment, but that aside, with what equipment I have and an extensive stash of components.... I am now my own ammo factory. Everything from powder puff bird shot to buckshot and slugs. If factory ammo dries up as it has before, it wont matter to me. If Wolfie needed a good reason to take up loading for shotguns, that would be it.
Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162133
06/27/24 09:24 PM
06/27/24 09:24 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
Vinke
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
|
Tom Bergen, the guy my dad hunted with, used to load some very hot pheasant load in the 70's/ 80's Wasn't to many birds the that flew away...... Still using them to this day on "tribute" hunts in IA... Never used a shell that compared for pheasant...
That is why we did it.....
Ant Man/ Marty 2028 just put your ear to the ground , and follow along
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162187
06/27/24 10:34 PM
06/27/24 10:34 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Wisconsin
Scott__aR
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2020
Wisconsin
|
I started reloading to reduce the costs. Shooting multiple gage sporting clays, going thru 1500 -2000 shells a week was expensive even back then; can't image buying commercial shells at today's prices.
Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of U.P. Trappers Member of NTA Member of FTA
|
|
|
Re: Shot shell reloaders : why
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8162201
06/27/24 10:53 PM
06/27/24 10:53 PM
|
Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
Wanna Be
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
|
I don’t think you can do much wrong loading shotgun shells, lol. When we were 12 my best friends parents and mine got together and got us a reloader, powder, shot, shells, primers, etc. We were 12!! And loaded everything from rock salt, metal shavings, BB’s out of the little plastic bags that looked like ketchup packets, bird shot, ball bearings, etc. We loaded our shells, friends shells, whoever’s shells, and we’re all still here. And believe it or not, we still have the same shotguns. Mine was a Winchester and his is a Remington. Back then it just gave us something to do and saved a little money I guess.
Last edited by Wanna Be; 06/27/24 10:54 PM.
|
|
|
|
|