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found out about a new atf rule #8166627
07/05/24 03:33 PM
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Grandson and me just came from a gun store. He is 18. Paid for an AR and now must wait. Apparently the outlaw gang of anti-constitutionalists calling their selves ATF have decided 18 year olds must wait up to ten days to bring their firearm home.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166629
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Sounds good to me. Your grandson is probably good to go, but I know bunches of them who need deeper background checks.

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Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166634
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how many does it stop from committing violent crime. I say none. Insta check is a joke. Its an infringement, needs abolished.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166637
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You can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time.


I got myself a seniors' GPS.
Not only does it tell me how to get to my destination,
it tells me why I wanted to go there.
Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166639
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Grandson and me just came from a gun store. He is 18. Paid for an AR and now must wait. Apparently the outlaw gang of anti-constitutionalists calling their selves ATF have decided 18 year olds must wait up to ten days to bring their firearm home.


Do you know if this is just in Kansas? Just for ARs or any long gun?

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #8166640
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Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
Sounds good to me. Your grandson is probably good to go, but I know bunches of them who need deeper background checks.


He's evidently passed the check. This is just making him wait for no reason. The ATF doesnt get to make gun laws. This is unconstitutional, period.

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #8166641
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Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
Sounds good to me. Your grandson is probably good to go, but I know bunches of them who need deeper background checks.



And this folks is why we can't have nice things, like freedom


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Originally Posted by BandB
Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
Sounds good to me. Your grandson is probably good to go, but I know bunches of them who need deeper background checks.


He's evidently passed the check. This is just making him wait for no reason. The ATF doesnt get to make gun laws. This is unconstitutional, period.

This


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Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166644
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ATF law or State law?

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166649
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I think congress passed some sort of gun (people) control law with an age restriction. So it may be The ATF is not just making up stuff. Still wrong but blame congress.

https://www.guns.com/news/2022/10/0...et-for-enhanced-background-check-process

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Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166650
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There are a lot of young hot heads being a gun for for some" quick work" that will pass a background check. As much as I hate the ATF I kinda sorta get this one a hair. That ten days could give someone the time they need to cool down and go " hay maybe I don't want to shoot my cheating gf and her bf in the face". Delt with similar situations before a few times , cheating gf, getting bullied, lil whatever thinking a drive by is what they need to do yadda yadda

Then again it's pretty easy to buy a cheap burner gun off the street soooo .......

Criminals don't follow laws but young people tend to make rash decisions


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Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #8166652
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Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
Sounds good to me. Your grandson is probably good to go, but I know bunches of them who need deeper background checks.

Especially when it comes to stuff like straw purchases suuuper common for people to go buy a gun for someone who needs it quick they get some cash off of it the other person gets to go spin the block with their new blick that evening


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There's a near infinite number of different ways to kill people, including other guns, besides ARs that 18 year olds can immediately take home after background check and purchase. This new rule just makes overly emotional morons, incapable of thinking logically, feel better.

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What was the SC ruling that just came down in regard to out of control federal agencies? It can/will have a direct impact on the administrative state.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
There's a near infinite number of different ways to kill people, including other guns, besides ARs that 18 year olds can immediately take home after background check and purchase. This new rule just makes overly emotional morons, incapable of thinking logically, feel better.

Keith


Pretty sure it's for all guns.... At least if it's the same as my state. I know when my brother (19)bought his Mauser he was put on a ten day wait


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Originally Posted by Posco
What was the SC ruling that just came down in regard to out of control federal agencies? It can/will have a direct impact on the administrative state.

Chevron ruling. Congress is supposed to make laws, not unelected bureaucrats

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: warrior] #8166678
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
Sounds good to me. Your grandson is probably good to go, but I know bunches of them who need deeper background checks.



And this folks is why we can't have nice things, like freedom

And this, folks is why we have so many random shootings. I'm 79 years old and have been hunting alone with all sorts of guns and never killed anyone. It is summertime and no seasons are open (except varmints), so it won't kill him to wait 10 days.


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Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166681
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I don’t have a problem with that rule. Eighteen year olds are not always ready for guns and society. We just had a murder today. Kid killed his grandmother.

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Originally Posted by charles
I don’t have a problem with that rule. Eighteen year olds are not always ready for guns and society. We just had a murder today. Kid killed his grandmother.

And yet many of a certain political party think 16 year olds should vote


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Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8166700
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Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
Originally Posted by warrior



And this folks is why we can't have nice things, like freedom

And this, folks is why we have so many random shootings. I'm 79 years old and have been hunting alone with all sorts of guns and never killed anyone. It is summertime and no seasons are open (except varmints), so it won't kill him to wait 10 days.


What if it's your daughter running from an abusive boyfriend and needing the means to protect herself?

You gonna wait ten days to fill up your car because there are arsonists?

Ten days on your next trap because of poachers?

You can "what if" yourself into all sorts of tyranny or accept the fact that life and liberty ain't safe, plan and act accordingly.

Besides, last I looked discrimination is a no no in this modern society.


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