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Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8167075 07/06/24 01:38 PM 07/06/24 01:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 ny U upstateNY trapper
upstateNY trapper U Joined: Aug 2008 ny	Interesting to see how many ANTI Second Amendment folks we have in here. the wheels of the gods turn very slowly

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8167103 07/06/24 02:25 PM 07/06/24 02:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 pa H hippie trapper
hippie trapper H Joined: Feb 2010 pa	Originally Posted by danny clifton I did not know it was a law so looked up who voted for this nonsense. It was unanimous from democrats. These are the republicans who signed on. House: Steve Chabot (Ohio), Liz Cheney (Wyo.), Brian Fitzpatrick (Penn.), Tony Gonzales (Texas), Anthony Gonzalez (Ohio), Christopher Jacobs (N.Y.), David Joyce (Ohio), John Katko (N.Y.), Adam Kinzinger (Ill.), Peter Meijer (Mich.), Tom Rice (S.C.), Maria Elvira Salazar (Fla.), Michael Turner (Ohio), and Fred Upton (Mich.) Senate: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.), Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), and Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.). I'm glad you took the time to see who voted for this. These are the same anti-Trumpers that would've passed the Comey-Manchin bill had Trump not asked the ATF to ban a novelty "bumpstocks" , a move some here like to hold against Trump. There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8167110 07/06/24 02:31 PM 07/06/24 02:31 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM Blaine County trapper
Blaine County trapper Joined: Mar 2010 2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM	It's not a cult....

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: upstateNY] #8167298 07/06/24 08:38 PM 07/06/24 08:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Lufkin, Tx. L Lufkin Trapper trapper
Lufkin Trapper trapper L Joined: Dec 2006 Lufkin, Tx.	Originally Posted by upstateNY Interesting to see how many ANTI Second Amendment folks we have in here. Mr. UPstate; if you are calling me anti-2a because my opinion is different from yours; so be it. You don't know me, and I don't know you. It's probably best that we keep it that way.You know the old saying about opinions, right. Every one has one. Some have (are) 2 of the others. Billy Member # 16.

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #8167310 07/06/24 09:00 PM 07/06/24 09:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana P Providence Farm trapper
Providence Farm trapper P Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana	Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper Originally Posted by upstateNY Interesting to see how many ANTI Second Amendment folks we have in here. Mr. UPstate; if you are calling me anti-2a because my opinion is different from yours; so be it. You don't know me, and I don't know you. It's probably best that we keep it that way.You know the old saying about opinions, right. Every one has one. Some have (are) 2 of the others. Funny he never said your name but you get offended. Deep down you must be able to see and feel your stance if your OK with more limits on shall not be infringed is wrong. News flash selling out or compromising your rights away is never right regardless of how you try to use mental gymnastics to make yourself feel better. He never said your name that's you getting worked up. People tend to do that when they know they are wrong. I will come out and say anyone and everyone that is pro restrictions and OK with more or what we have now they are worse than a full blown anti gunner and a trader to the country. I'm not going back to see what you posted since I don't remember because I don't care enough to. I just don't sugar coat it and stand on solid principles. Last edited by Providence Farm; 07/06/24 10:19 PM.

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: Providence Farm] #8167345 07/06/24 09:59 PM 07/06/24 09:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Lufkin, Tx. L Lufkin Trapper trapper
Lufkin Trapper trapper L Joined: Dec 2006 Lufkin, Tx.	So, I have just been psycho-analyzed by an arm-chair psychologist. Your folks must be awfully proud of your accomplishments. Still don't see what's wrong with being a little careful. Billy Member # 16.

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8167349 07/06/24 10:03 PM 07/06/24 10:03 PM
Joined: May 2018 SW Georgia W Wanna Be trapper
Wanna Be trapper W Joined: May 2018 SW Georgia	Is this just a Penn State law? Georgia doesn’t have a waiting period.

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #8167367 07/06/24 10:29 PM 07/06/24 10:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana P Providence Farm trapper
Providence Farm trapper P Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana	Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper So, I have just been psycho-analyzed by an arm-chair psychologist. Your folks must be awfully proud of your accomplishments. Still don't see what's wrong with being a little careful. That's personal responsibility, situational awareness, making sure your mag is full and extra in your pocket. It doesn't mean you get to sell out others rights because it makes you "feel" safer or like you did something. Not a single gun restriction on the books stopes any crime. Criminals break laws it's part of the job description .Heck the ATF itself broke our laws and international laws runing guns to Mexico!! For profit and to go after our 2nd amendment rights and gun manufacturers. And these are the same people you willingly want to give more power to? Seems like a very limited ability to think things through or just missing a few parts to the equation. Historical proven governments want a monopoly on force and an unarmed population. Once thy get that lots of people die by those government's hands.

Re: found out about a new atf rule [Re: danny clifton] #8167380 07/06/24 10:58 PM 07/06/24 10:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks D danny clifton OP "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton OP "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks	Wannabe its federal. Anybody in GA between 18 and 21 has to have an "enhanced" background check whatever that means. Can take up to 10 days. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

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