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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167025
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$4 dollars in 1960 would be $42 today. According to my information in the NWT the average price during the 60's would have been around about $12 which would be over $100 Canadian in todays prices.

P.S. the 60's were not exactly a fur boom. That tells you how bad things are today. frown




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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: Dirt] #8167027
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Originally Posted by Dirt
$4 dollars in 1960 would be $42 today. According to my information marten in NWT averaged 10 dollars Canadian in 1960 and averaged about $12 throughout the 60's between $8 and $20 Canadian. $12 in the 60's would be over $100 Canadian in todays prices.


Yah it's crazy! My pap used to get 50 bucks a coon and he would brings 100s of coons in at a time! That's enough everyday to make you get a average yearly salary in just 4 months!


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: Shakeyjake] #8167033
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
What’s the best synthetic winter hat? Doesn’t hold a candle to a cheap muskrat hat at -30 riding behind the Tundra on a sleigh, never mind the environmental footprint. You’ll pay good money and look cool with the latest big name logo on it, but be borrowing my hat when we stop to do a check to warm up the noggin….lol.


What percentage of the population are out snowmobiling in -30 weather?

Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8167036
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
What’s the best synthetic winter hat? Doesn’t hold a candle to a cheap muskrat hat at -30 riding behind the Tundra on a sleigh, never mind the environmental footprint. You’ll pay good money and look cool with the latest big name logo on it, but be borrowing my hat when we stop to do a check to warm up the noggin….lol.


What percentage of the population are out snowmobiling in -30 weather?

Everybody down south LOL


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8167037
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
What’s the best synthetic winter hat? Doesn’t hold a candle to a cheap muskrat hat at -30 riding behind the Tundra on a sleigh, never mind the environmental footprint. You’ll pay good money and look cool with the latest big name logo on it, but be borrowing my hat when we stop to do a check to warm up the noggin….lol.


What percentage of the population are out snowmobiling in -30 weather?


Around here they wear helmets because go faster machines don't have real windshields.


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167038
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I bet! I bet most of the USA even knows trapping exist!!


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: Dirt] #8167039
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Originally Posted by Dirt
$4 dollars in 1960 would be $42 today. According to my information in the NWT the average price during the 60's would have been around about $12 which would be over $100 Canadian.

P.S. the 60's were not exactly a fur boom. That tells you how bad things are today. frown





I stand corrected,it was the 58-59 season and avg price at that time for marten was $4.95 which is 53 today so quite a bit less than currently.

Lynx were less then than today as were fox,but other fur like fisher beaver and mink were quite a bit higher then.
Coon about same as today.

Seems that land fur and water fur went opposite in value in earlier fur market ups and downs unlike today.

That was an interesting time in the fur industry-the two Canadian inventions that revolutionized trapping (conibear trap and skidoo) were being taken up by the Northern trappers. Regardless of low fur prices trappers invested in their operations en masse..

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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8167040
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
What’s the best synthetic winter hat? Doesn’t hold a candle to a cheap muskrat hat at -30 riding behind the Tundra on a sleigh, never mind the environmental footprint. You’ll pay good money and look cool with the latest big name logo on it, but be borrowing my hat when we stop to do a check to warm up the noggin….lol.


What percentage of the population are out snowmobiling in -30 weather?


Just saying the synthetic stuff isn’t the same. If it’s cold out, who needs synthetic stuff, they’re not going out anyway and the sledders have helmets. And no, I’m not lost on the fact that I wear Eskimo ice fishing pants when it’s below -20, and decent Cabelas Instinct pants when it’s above -20. But it don’t cut it on your head. A caribou hide suit would be sweet, but a guys gotta be able to move, we’re not as tough as they were 100 years ago.


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167041
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Here's sale results from 2002 vs 2024 or 2023
2002:
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2024:

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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167044
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About $5 difference! Might just do lots of squirrel trapping/hunting and sell them! Get 100 squirrels there 100 dollars! And it's really fun! Season starts early too!


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167046
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Originally Posted by NorthernTrapperO
About $5 difference! Might just do lots of squirrel trapping/hunting and sell them! Get 100 squirrels there 100 dollars! And it's really fun! Season starts early too!

Learn to tan-tanned squirrells sell all day long for 10 dollars and cost pennies to tan.

The fur market consists of much more than raw fur sales.

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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: Boco] #8167048
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by NorthernTrapperO
About $5 difference! Might just do lots of squirrel trapping/hunting and sell them! Get 100 squirrels there 100 dollars! And it's really fun! Season starts early too!

Learn to tan-tanned squirrells sell all day long for 10 dollars and cost pennies to tan.

The fur market consists of much more than raw fur sales.

Yo $10 a piece at auction????? I'm will be right on that asap!!


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167049
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I use tru bond for tanning it's really good stuff I will 100% say that again too!

Take a look at this whitetailed deer cale from using it (it's amazingly soft)

[Linked Image]


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167050
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Does the ol coon fat have a market too!


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167060
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NTO - are you saying you tanned that deer cape????

Before you get too excited about squirrels - you should research the type of squirrels that they sell at international auctions. Just saying, all squirrels are not the same when it comes to value.


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: wissmiss] #8167062
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
NTO - are you saying you tanned that deer cape????

Before you get too excited about squirrels - you should research the type of squirrels that they sell at international auctions. Just saying, all squirrels are not the same when it comes to value.

No that's is someone else's that tanned with trubond


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167064
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I think some of the furs like rats, coon etc. will see a bit of an up tick. How much I don't know. If it is still just the very best going up for coon then the market is not expanding it is just offering more for the limited better coons. Rats have been a size market for some time. I don't know if there is an increasing better rat market or not. Size is about a 75 cents to a $1 break and grade is about half that. At least it was for my rats.
I am seeing more reds in my area this year. Not much mange around which is a good thing. Coyotes have not gone away that is for sure.

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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167067
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If I ever become a fur buying ima be the one that trys to buy as much as possible to get higher average!


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167068
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It would hurt the wallet but it would make people happy smile


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Re: Will the fur market rise? [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8167069
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I'd say it worth it for when I sell then wink


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