Quick bible question one of my heathen friends asked me , apparently their watching that new show the chosen ( good show from the clips I've been seeing) a long with reading though the Bible.

So as Christians where supposed to follow the law of Christ right ? ...not the law of Moses right ? .... So like...isn't the Old testament the law of Moses and the new the law of Christ basically?


Also, The lesser key of Solomon.... What would that be classified as ? Apocryphal ? Occult?

I have no idea what the less key of Solomon is?

Old Testament the sheep died for the shepherd, new testament the shepherd dies for the sheep.

An airplane does not fly by defying gravity. It flies by using the another law, the law of lift.

It's the same law.
Probably my favorite line in the Chosen is when Jesus said I Am the law of Moses.
Israel would not have had sacrifices for the atonement of sin if there salvation was through keeping the law.
Only faith in the true passover, the Messiah was, is, and always will be the open door to the Kingdom of God and eternal presence with God.
No one man was ever saved by the law exept for the Man Christ Jesus, Who kept the law perfectly. who also is both man and God. Only by the grace of God through faith is Jesus are we saved.
Rich.

I like your allegories Foxpaw.

Old Testament was "The Law" which no human could live blameless in, so sheep (and other animals) were sacrificed to atone for the shortcomings of the humans who followed God (Jews)

Jesus was sent to be the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of all who will call on Him for salvation

All new laws have bases from older laws. Yes there is a set of new laws that jesus brought but all were based off old laws. With this new law it stopped the need for sacrifice of your best whatever, sheep, crops, doves, ect.... because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice you can't out sacrifice Jesus... through Jesus and him being the sacrifice this stops man making the punishment for sins, like if you committed adultery you were stoned for example. With Jesus sacrifice this brings the punishment and judgment to the creator, however you get to repent and a chance to change your ways through Jesus grace and mercy. The world never had this through the old law. So what I'm trying to say is old law and new law adultery is still a sin so it's viewed the same but old law you were stoned to death, new law you get a 2nd chance to change and get forgiveness. Your choice, you ask or seek forgiveness punishment is still going to be death at some time and enterity in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).

There are three parts to the old testament law: (1) the civil law - property ownership, inheritance, debt, etc., (2) the moral law - don't murder, don't steal, etc., (3) the ceremonial law - festivals, offerings, who can be priests, etc.

The moral law did not go away, it was talked about a lot by Jesus. 9 of the 10 commandments are given as instructions in the new testament so we know they still apply - or maybe that they were put in place again by Jesus and therefore continue.

Some of the civil law was talked about by Jesus, such as divorce, and he said that the old law was not enough. We need to do more than just follow the letter of the law, and look for the loop holes that let us get away with treating others badly. it's the spirit of the law that matters. Civil law can be different than the exact way it was written in the old testament but it's not gone. The new civil law can be summed up as "write civil laws that makes us do what is right to each other".

The ceremonial law went away. No more need for sacrifices since Jesus is our sacrifice. We are no longer required to follow the dietary laws, or keep the festivals (Colossians 2:16).

The Two Great Commandments, Matthew 22:35-40 Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart ,and with all thy soul , and with all thy mind . This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it . Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
James 2:8 If ye fill the royal law according to the scripture , Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself , ye do well.
The law that we’re supposed to do is “Love thy neighbor.”

As far as addressing the key of Solomon . You said a quick reply, I'm not sure there is a quick reply but I will try to go by memory and sometimes my memory is short, lol. Since I have some cracked ribs and I'm not going to church I will spend some time on this. I think what the Solomon key thing is an attempt by some to revive the old legal system from Solomon. God took the legal line from Solomon and the Kingship away with Jehoiakim. In Jeremiah 22:19 it says he will be buried with the burial of an (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). In other words the King ship ripped from him. The Kingship would still come down thru David only thru Nathan one of the brothers of Solomon and not Solomon.

In order for Jesus to be king it had to be obtained both legally and by blood. Now when it was talking about Jehoiakim having the kingship ripped from him it said to let him be written as childless. It did not mean actually childless but that none of his line would sit on the throne. Now Joseph (Jesus step dad) was from that line. Now I taught several years at Christmas time that Jesus attained the legal right to the throne thru being adopted by Joseph and that was coming thru Solomon. But since then I think I was wrong and have been led this way. It says Jehoiakim line ended (even thou he had kids). So Joseph would not have got his legal right that way, it had been ended.

Now the blood line came down thru Mary. She came thru the line of Nathan, a brother of Solomon. So Jesus got the Kingship by blood thru Mary. Since Mary had no brothers for heirs her dad adopted Joseph who was very old by the way! By that way Joseph attained the legal side. Then since Jesus was adopted by Joseph to get the legal side. Thus Jesus had the Kingship by blood and legal.

Another thing I might add. When we talk about bloodlines maybe DNA would be a better term. When a woman is pregnant she has her blood and the baby has its blood. If something happens that their blood should mix it will cause miscarriage because the mother s body detects it as a foreign object. So a babies blood is its own. There is also something about the babies blood mixing with the mothers blood while giving birth. Then she has to get a shot that has to do with the RH factor or she might miscarry her next baby. Memory needs refreshing here.

Been awhile since I been thru all this if I need correction on any of it feel free to comment. I did it as quickly as possible.

Who was that Zerubbabel in Haggai and what is with the ring?

That quote looks like it came from a commentary. They don't mention doing away with the law of Moses anywhere in them. In fact, it looks like the commentator is taking them out of context to support his take on it. Read them carefully.

Ok so on your last deal there......does that mean the book of Leviticus is just like not really our thing anymore? Or just certain parts ?

J Vernon McGee and many others consider Leviticus to be one of the most important Books in the Bible.

In what context? I seen it talked about in a few, the one that makes the most sense is just practically hence all the food restrictions

Ok, I have a different take on this perhaps?

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, [1]
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because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
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For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, [2] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. [3] And so he condemned sin in sinful man, [4]
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in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.


We are to fulfill the law of Christ. (Galatians 6:2) Which is:

Which commandment is the most important of all?’ Jesus answered, ‘The most important is, “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.” The second is this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” There is no other commandment greater than these.’”

Jesus fulfilled the entire mosaic law, not part of it. That doesn't mean we are to be lawless. It means we are to act out of love, only. Would you break any of the commandments if you truly love everyone? Think about it. Every sin is based in selfishness.

Below is his take on it Wolfdog. In brevity, I think part of it is that 90% of Leviticus is written in the first person by Jehovah Himself. I surely am thankful that Dr. McGee left such a legacy and we can still study with him today. He still comes on the radio every morning at 5AM locally here.

Leviticus Importance - J Vernon McGee

If you have insomnia read leviticus.

Ha!
True. I've done it!

Always relate to this from the Simpsons when I do lol