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Re: Investment long term [Re: BvrRetriever] #8178718
07/21/24 06:52 PM
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Silver, real estate and timber.

Re: Investment long term [Re: BvrRetriever] #8178720
07/21/24 06:54 PM
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This might be a fun little exercise for some of you

https://www.wsj.com/personal-financ...ww&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


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Re: Investment long term [Re: Providence Farm] #8178727
07/21/24 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by midlander
^^^ debt is not needed to make you money.


And not having any sure does allow great piece of mind and allows you to invest the debt payments without having to worry about things falling apart.

You can make money using debt sure I am now on my low interest auto loan I'm making 5.15% and my interest rate on the loan is 2.6% so I would loose money paying it off. But I have the cash available to do just that.


A lot of people have been successful using debt to make money BUT many many more have had something go south and end up bankrupt.

You may make money with debt but you will always do well and secure being debt free. At the very least have the money available to pay off the debt so you don't end up with your back to the wall




Unless that vehicle is a business deduction you are not making anything by paying any interest. Interested earn is calculated differently than a car payment. Trust me pay it off !!

Re: Investment long term [Re: white17] #8178731
07/21/24 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
This might be a fun little exercise for some of you

https://www.wsj.com/personal-financ...ww&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


Seems you need a subscription for WSJ to access your link....

Re: Investment long term [Re: BvrRetriever] #8178737
07/21/24 07:13 PM
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Hm. You shouldn't. Lemme try again. Says it is a free link. Try this one

https://www.wsj.com/personal-financ...fd&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


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Re: Investment long term [Re: white17] #8178762
07/21/24 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Hm. You shouldn't. Lemme try again. Says it is a free link. Try this one

https://www.wsj.com/personal-financ...fd&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


I had a 36 point drop. What did you get?

Re: Investment long term [Re: BvrRetriever] #8178785
07/21/24 08:31 PM
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I took the quiz for giggles and dropped 40 points. I have no idea what my credit score is. Havent needed it in a long time. I wish I knew then what I know now as I would have done things a little different.
Its a shame when I hear people brag about credit scores, its the same as bragging that they 'are great at borrowing money and paying interest'. The financials have been masters at convincing people that they need to borrow money to build their credit score. I prefer the philosophy that Id rather save money, invest wisely, and avoid debt so that I never need to borrow money and pay interest again.

Poor people pay interest, wealthy people earn interest. Again, just a difference in philosophy...not condemning folks who like to pay interest.

Re: Investment long term [Re: midlander] #8178796
07/21/24 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
I took the quiz for giggles and dropped 40 points. I have no idea what my credit score is. Havent needed it in a long time. I wish I knew then what I know now as I would have done things a little different.
Its a shame when I hear people brag about credit scores, its the same as bragging that they 'are great at borrowing money and paying interest'. The financials have been masters at convincing people that they need to borrow money to build their credit score. I prefer the philosophy that Id rather save money, invest wisely, and avoid debt so that I never need to borrow money and pay interest again.

Poor people pay interest, wealthy people earn interest. Again, just a difference in philosophy...not condemning folks who like to pay interest.

Exaclty

Re: Investment long term [Re: BvrRetriever] #8178882
07/21/24 11:57 PM
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Timberland with 15-20 year old reprod growing on it. Trees of that age are not ascribed a lot of future monetary value, yet they are growing additional value (volume) at an exponential rate. That growth is your real increase in value, and the upward creep in land value is your inflation hedge.


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Re: Investment long term [Re: BvrRetriever] #8178941
07/22/24 07:22 AM
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You need three pots of gold
1 stock market
2 T-Bills
3 Cash

Use what you need when the others are bad. Simple
Diversify within your own investments

Re: Investment long term [Re: BvrRetriever] #8178943
07/22/24 07:26 AM
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If you don't have any debt your credit score goes up but when you want to purchase a vehicle if your credit score is like 822 you get to pay a higher interest rate. We ended up paying cash.

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