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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178011
07/20/24 05:21 PM
07/20/24 05:21 PM
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Wisconsin
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The Beav Offline
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Wisconsin
The attempt at adding double jaws looks like a waste of time to me. But It's a nice looking trap.


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178407
07/21/24 10:27 AM
07/21/24 10:27 AM
Joined: Jun 2010
PA
Coon Duke Offline OP
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PA
Price is looking to be around $135 a dozen.


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178459
07/21/24 12:13 PM
07/21/24 12:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Piney va. soon be 19
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Piney va. soon be 19
Wouldn't call that a double jaw


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178473
07/21/24 12:57 PM
07/21/24 12:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2024
Ohio
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TrapperE Offline
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Ohio
Says made in china on back, makes me a little skeptical but I would try a few for sure


PETA is stupid.
Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: cotton] #8178516
07/21/24 01:51 PM
07/21/24 01:51 PM
Joined: Apr 2011
SE SD
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SE SD
Originally Posted by cotton
Wouldn't call that a double jaw


Yep. I also think the pan could stand to be bigger

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: TrapperE] #8178529
07/21/24 02:08 PM
07/21/24 02:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
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Yes sir Offline
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Marion Kansas
Originally Posted by TrapperE
Says made in china on back, makes me a little skeptical but I would try a few for sure

Ive caught most of my coyotes in traps made in China.

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Yes sir] #8178549
07/21/24 02:25 PM
07/21/24 02:25 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
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South Ga - Almost Florida
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by TrapperE
Says made in china on back, makes me a little skeptical but I would try a few for sure

Ive caught most of my coyotes in traps made in China.

Me too. Or Taiwan.


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178843
07/21/24 10:06 PM
07/21/24 10:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2007
Illinois
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Joined: Jun 2007
Illinois
I’m definitely interested… hopefully they aren’t a limited item… I wouldnt mind picking up a few to try


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178844
07/21/24 10:14 PM
07/21/24 10:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2023
Lake Mille Lacs , MN
2poor Offline
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Lake Mille Lacs , MN
Am I the only one who read this Newt Sterling ?


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178879
07/21/24 11:46 PM
07/21/24 11:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Jackson Co, KS
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Joined: Dec 2016
Jackson Co, KS
I used to be a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) for #11s. I agree that "double jaw" setup is pointless (maybe it covers some states BMP rules?), interesting pan set up. I would try a dozen just to relive the olden days.

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178932
07/22/24 06:52 AM
07/22/24 06:52 AM
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Wyoming
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Wyoming
Made in China. NO THANKS!!!!!!

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178948
07/22/24 07:33 AM
07/22/24 07:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2018
Pennsylvania
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Pennsylvania
What’s wrong with a trap being made other than in America? Surely can’t be cause all of what someone uses is American only?

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178950
07/22/24 07:35 AM
07/22/24 07:35 AM
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Ohio
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Ohio
American stuff is usually quality


PETA is stupid.
Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8178989
07/22/24 08:55 AM
07/22/24 08:55 AM
Joined: Mar 2020
W NY
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W NY
While it doesn't bother me, I know plenty of people including my father that try to buy 100% American.


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Turtledale] #8179025
07/22/24 09:51 AM
07/22/24 09:51 AM
Joined: Aug 2018
Pennsylvania
The hammer Offline
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Pennsylvania
Originally Posted by Turtledale
While it doesn't bother me, I know plenty of people including my father that try to buy 100% American.

I agree would be nice to buy 100% American or see more of it for that matter but even the so called 100% American made isn’t much of a thing anymore being most products are made with imported materials these days or made with things such as machines not made in America. I myself run a machine shop that does high production manufacturing Machining parts that go to things from Mossberg guns to GM car parts. One would say it’s American made being pressed or stamped then machined here but the sad news is some of the powdered or materials for such parts came from over seas but it still goes in a box that states American made. So imo American made isn’t what it was back in the day nor do we live in time where that would be a thing ever again for running a business in the machining manufacturing industry shows you real quick how todays work force or the next generation of work force simply isn’t up to the task or wants to be. A lot of work isn’t just sent over seas or down south of us do to greed and cost a lot of it is due to lack of work force for a lot of big businesses know they’d still get a premium price and the products would sale if made and produced here not all some are greed and political based decisions but a lot of it is lack of work force, employee greed yes that’s a thing most people can’t come to terms with why they are not worth what others are, and laziness has hurt the American work force hard in the last ten years. This opinion written and brought to on a device of which not American made. Before I get a ton of hate for it I work and employee many that take pride in American manufacturing I’m not saying we shouldn’t support in every way we can but also just because it’s not American made doesn’t mean it’s not creating a job or many jobs here as well or that American family’s ain’t benefiting from it rather be the family own store selling the products or the many of Americans being paid to ship or transport such products across are country.

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: The hammer] #8179077
07/22/24 11:06 AM
07/22/24 11:06 AM
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Indiana
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Indiana
Originally Posted by The hammer
What’s wrong with a trap being made other than in America? Surely can’t be cause all of what someone uses is American only?


Personal preference . Given the choice I will buy sleepy creek 1 LS at the new old stock premium price or used over new cheaper stuff made in China.

But many things I get no choice in. $400 for a caliper for my John Deere gator from the dealer. Yes crazy price but at least it's American made I think to myself. Open the box when I'm putting it on and cast right into the part is China.grrr.

I won't buy another JD product other than parts for my old stuff. Parts are crazy high and still made in China. At least Kubota parts are made by Kubota and assembled in the US. New equipment will be Kubota tractors and likely Honda it's or Jap mini trucks for utv .

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8179080
07/22/24 11:09 AM
07/22/24 11:09 AM
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NC - Here there and everywhere
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At least it is clearly labeled as such, and not labeled as Made in USA when it was actually made in Taiwan


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8179087
07/22/24 11:17 AM
07/22/24 11:17 AM
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Missouri
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Missouri
Don't it always seem to go, that we don't know what we got till it's gone.............

Offhand I can think of three USA made traps that reached the pinnacle of design for their types.........the BMI body grips........Coon Dagger DPs and Sleepy Creek #11. For various reason, all of them are now gone. There are some cage traps that fit that pattern too.

Only reason to buy any other #11 is because the SC #11 is no longer being made. So if somebody did want to make one to replace it, why not make it as close to the ideal as you can? If it can be made in an Asia shop for less money, so be it, as long as it is made well. Looks to me like the double jaw issue is because the double jaw was not welded on.......it was stamped and pressed in. The guys that designed and made it didn't understand the function. Duke #11 has that issue in spades. That seems to be the main difference between what current traps have vs. traps made by users that really knew their stuff.

If they are going to make a copy, make a copy. Make it so it is perfect out of the box. No mods needed. And as for the Sterling......replace that spot welded ring with a swivel. Bridger #11 needs that too.


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Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: Coon Duke] #8179096
07/22/24 11:27 AM
07/22/24 11:27 AM
Joined: May 2010
alabama
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alabama
If they copied it, people on here would be screaming about that. Especially if it's made overseas.

Re: New Sterling #11! [Re: HayDay] #8179108
07/22/24 11:42 AM
07/22/24 11:42 AM
Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
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Oakland, MS
Originally Posted by HayDay
Don't it always seem to go, that we don't know what we got till it's gone.............

Offhand I can think of three USA made traps that reached the pinnacle of design for their types.........the BMI body grips........Coon Dagger DPs and Sleepy Creek #11. For various reason, all of them are now gone. There are some cage traps that fit that pattern too.

Only reason to buy any other #11 is because the SC #11 is no longer being made. So if somebody did want to make one to replace it, why not make it as close to the ideal as you can? If it can be made in an Asia shop for less money, so be it, as long as it is made well. Looks to me like the double jaw issue is because the double jaw was not welded on.......it was stamped and pressed in. The guys that designed and made it didn't understand the function. Duke #11 has that issue in spades. That seems to be the main difference between what current traps have vs. traps made by users that really knew their stuff.

If they are going to make a copy, make a copy. Make it so it is perfect out of the box. No mods needed. And as for the Sterling......replace that spot welded ring with a swivel. Bridger #11 needs that too.


I'm grateful they didn't connect the chain on the baseplate like sleepy creek did.


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