Barn Rat ?
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07/23/24 02:20 PM
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I have a rat job I'm working on and am getting some curious results.
Has any of you used a rat snap trap and have the rat NOT caught, but right beside or close to it, acting dopey. It's like the trap fired and missed the rat, but clobbered it on the head, like maybe causing a concussion? When I go to pick it up for disposal, it makes NO effort to escape. What ever works! But, the chance of a loss seems pretty high. I have to wonder how many fired/empty traps are this same situation?
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Re: Barn Rat ?
[Re: BigBob]
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07/23/24 02:38 PM
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k snow
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I have a rat job I'm working on and am getting some curious results.
Has any of you used a rat snap trap and have the rat NOT caught, but right beside or close to it, acting dopey. It's like the trap fired and missed the rat, but clobbered it on the head, like maybe causing a concussion? When I go to pick it up for disposal, it makes NO effort to escape. What ever works! But, the chance of a loss seems pretty high. I have to wonder how many fired/empty traps are this same situation? Check to make sure both springs are still engaged on the kill bar. I've had one spring pop off at times. I noticed it resetting, the trap seemed really weak.
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Re: Barn Rat ?
[Re: BigBob]
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07/23/24 02:46 PM
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Both ends connected and plenty strong.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Barn Rat ?
[Re: BigBob]
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07/23/24 06:09 PM
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I don't see how they can't be under the bail far enough and still trip the trigger?
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Barn Rat ?
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07/24/24 10:06 AM
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i have some fast mice that dodge the victor snap traps and some die right beside it or just sit there like concussed, i usually shoot them with my red rider
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Re: Barn Rat ?
[Re: BigBob]
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07/24/24 07:11 PM
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I've had better than 75% still kicking, but laying right by the trap.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Barn Rat ?
[Re: BigBob]
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07/25/24 08:38 AM
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There is a guy on utube that made his mark by showing various animals working traps. Before utube took down his early stuff, he had a couple videos of very big Norway rats working various rat traps. What he found was the rats were simply too big for the traps. Likely as not, the striker bar just bonked them on the forehead vs. their neck. Like using a 120 body grip for big coon. Rat traps might work on smaller roof rats and juvenile Norway rats, but not the big guys.
Never had a rat problem to deal with myself, but have studied them. One of the biggest varmint problems the chicken guys have to deal with. Observing what works for them, trapping alone is an uphill battle. Control almost always starts with sanitation.......elimination of the food source they are living on. Because they make their own shelter by making tunnels in the ground, that one is hard to deal with. But they got to eat. Shut that off and they will either move or starve to death. And once they get hungry, then they get easier to trap with bait or more likely to consume bait blocks if that is an option.
But as for traps, I'd be moving up a notch or two. Like a 110 body grip tuned or even waxed so it will stay set, but fire if you breath on it heavy. A pan or big paddle trigger wire setup to guide them to a place for stricker bars to hit something vital. And option B.......a #1 or even #0 long spring blind set on runs. I might even try a 1 1/2 long spring with a dab of peanut butter under the pan and rag on top of it. Now we are back to kill trap.
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Re: Barn Rat ?
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07/25/24 02:29 PM
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I am surprised and happy that your old but, can still bend down to set/pickup......good Job have a nice day Grumpy.... ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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