Yep. BP has voted democrat all his life in OR like most other Oregonians and doesn't understand why there's so many transgenders in his state.

BP is this true?
Bluebird bus with new friends, headed to 11349 s 176 ave.....
Should we be worried about newhouse whatever also???

The US or more appropriately These United States of America is made up of fifty sovereign states, Bobo. We are not a unified realm under a crown.

That is the nature of a federal republic.

I'm in the same boat Ang. I miss my life in the rockies and miss driving OTR. Have to remind myself that what I miss doesn't exist anymore.

Pretty much the same here. Oregon must be a very weird place.

All sin leads to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), and we've all sinned.



Jesus allowed divorce for infidelity, of course. He also said in the same breath that anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. And nobody's claiming that Jesus approved of homosexuality. Don't be silly.

Wifey runs the youth center here in town, so we get a good view of what affects kids. There's a few gay/lesbian/trans kids that come. Some have some behavioral issues, most are nice kids. But every single kid with behavioral issues, gay, straight, whatever, comes from a home wrecked by divorce and/or unwed parents. We've seen plenty of kids, who are well behaved "good" kids, who decide to "come out" for whatever reason, and their behavior doesn't change. We've also seen way more kids who were previously "good" kids quickly spiral into trouble when their parents split.

It seems to me that divorce is a far bigger issue causing far more harm to kids and to America (which of course depends on our kids) than gay/trans ideology. I know that that's hard for some folks to accept. I think it's become an easy issue for Christians to let slide because it's so accepted in society, and you can't just spot a divorced person the way you can spot a dude in a dress.

Yep

So are you saying that a person that marries a divorced person sins? Is that a continual sin? If it is a continual sin what is the cure before finally having a shipwreck of faith?

Jesus said it, not me. The only exception he left was if the divorce was because of adultery.

From matthew 19, starting at verse 8....(new king james version)
8He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

Paul said something similar in 1 corinthians 7....(NIV here), indicating that those who divorce shouldn't remarry as long as their former spouse is alive. Paul made clear that this was a command from God, that paul wasn't just pulling this out of his butt.
starting at verse 10....10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

Verse 39....39 A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.

What is the cure?

Is marriage honorable in all?

Not sure what you're asking by "what is the cure?" If you're talking about what an individual person should do. the cure certainly isn't to keep living in an adulterous relationship. The cure is true repentance, same as any other sin. Of course, when one repents, that means one stops the sin and makes a 180 degree turn. Specifically regarding the issue of divorce and remarriage, that would mean ending the adulterous relationship. I realize that that's devastaing and even uncomrehendable for some people. I know thaty some people had horrible marriages. got divorced, and have been living a long time in wonderful 2nd marriages. But repentance is hard. I don't see how one can say "i repent of my adulterous relationship", but then continue to commit adultery.

Hey Yotetrapper! That I somehow bother (ed) you just made my day....I'll wear a smile all day long. (Hope you do too). LOL

Yup,

Carl's liberal democrat political chickens have come home to roost !!!

So you are saying marriage is not honorable in all. Except two gays which isn't possible even with the farthest stretch. It was as you have already heard but never perceived it was Eve that was taken from Adam not Steve. Is there a better model for marriage than at the beginning?

If you think that a divorced person that is remarried and is living in sin with no recourse except to divorce again, you are not only shipwrecked but carrying passengers. You think they are living in sin. But two gays is not sin? Those two gays getting married is not plausible because there is no such thing!

If you make this thread about politics guess what could happen? Better find some 2nd amendment dirt on me.....

Read it again. "Except for sexual immortality". I do agree that no fault divorce is one of the worst things to happen to our society, but this thread is about homos and trannies.

What? what are you talking about? Where did I say that?

Yes, if someone gets divorced for reasons besides adultery, and remarries, they are living in sin. Adultery is a sin, and Jesus made clear that divorce except for adultery, and remarriage, is adultery.

And I never even implied that gay marriage is okay. I don't know where you're getting that from.

Yeah I know. I already said that up above.

Then I guess it is my mistake, I took it you was implying kids was better off living with gay parents than divorced and remarried parents. Don't have the time to go back thru 5 pages right now. I just assumed somehow you was trying to justify perversion by piggy backing it on failed marriages. Perhaps I dreamed it.