Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: spjones]
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07/27/24 10:46 AM
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That’s great,,,,smart move
Looks to me,,,doing rough calculations
Canada goose has lost 6 billion $ in market cap since going fur free Ya that's crazy-but what's even more crazy is the fact that since they went public years ago the anti's bought up enough shares to be on their board of directors-that was the end of the real fur. One of the many issues with taking a private company and going public with it. Poor decisions from people that bow down to the crazies in the anti-everything world. Just ask Budweiser how they feel about stupid decisions as well LOL.There are still a few companies out there that still use real coyote fur on their parkas-but they are seriously struggling-trust me on this as I am in the outerwear business.The only way these expensive jackets come back is if we can get a celebrity to wear it and make it cool! Then we are back in business. Just imagine if someone like Beyonce wore one of the fashion parkas with real fur or Taylor Swift-its all the fashion garment needs and it will be back.But another thing-quality for the price needs to be there or you are dead before you even start.
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: MB Coonguy]
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07/27/24 11:03 AM
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I would love to see GFW succeed with this for sure.It is a very proactive approach-hope they market it well and it takes off again. X2
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: kinley31]
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07/27/24 02:04 PM
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yotetrapper30
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LOL. No middleman yotetrapper30? So Guy and Gary bought some sewing machines and are making them in house with American labor for $450? No. They're trying to figure out a way to market 1000's of dressed coyotes that nobody wants. GFW are business men first. If there's a fat hog to be cut, they're sharpening their knives as I type this. Of course not. But you do know that many Canada Goose parkas are manufactured in China, right? So, using Canada Goose as an example (but it could also be any American-based clothing designer as well): 1)Someone grows the cotton used in the coats, then it is sent to a gin (first middleman) then to a textile factory to be made into cloth (second middleman) then possibly directly to Canada Goose or more likely to a fabric wholesaler (third middleman). 2) Someone grows the ducks for the down used in the coats. The down is then sold to whoever buys/sells down (middleman) before being bought by Canada Goose. 3) Someone traps the coyotes for the fur trim. That fur is then sold, either directly through FHA (one middleman), to Groenwold or another buyer that sells direct to producers (one middleman) or to a local buyer (first middleman) who then sells it through FHA or Groenwold (second middleman).
4) Canada Goose then takes all collected materials and has them shipped to China for manufacture into coats (middleman) before getting them back to sell, either directly or through other middlemen. For Groenwold, steps 1, 2, and 4 would be the same. But, unlike Canada Goose, for step 3, Groenwold would be buying the fur directly from the trappers, thus eliminating one or two middlemen, and lowering the cost that they have to pay for the fur. Like you said, it's just good business. Would you expect a business to undertake a project like this if they expected to incur a loss? What, just out of the goodness of their heart for the trapping community? Of course they wouldn't be doing it if they didn't intend to profit from it. Anyone that would expect them to do otherwise sounds communist. But something that can be beneficial for the business, can at the same time be beneficial for the trapping community, and this is and I think you know that. You just have a problem with Groeny for some reason, guess he didn't pay you enough for your blue titty sows one year or something, geez. I was going to address your post about them not being at the NTA, but it appears walleyed already did. You may notice other normal NTA vendors are absent this year as well, including the owner of this website.
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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07/27/24 02:22 PM
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Canada goose is made in Canada,not China or anywhere else.
The chinese chicken coat is made in china.
Last edited by Boco; 07/27/24 02:23 PM.
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: Boco]
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07/27/24 02:40 PM
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Canada goose is made in Canada,not China or anywhere else.
The chinese chicken coat is made in china. After further research, yes, their parkas are all made in Canada. It is their other items that are made overseas. Shirts and such are made in Italy and Romania, while hats and gloves are made in China. According to their own website.
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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07/27/24 02:45 PM
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Dealing with the public is not fun. Ask most any self employed person including the ADC guys. I don't blame them for avoiding us when you read the above posts.......jk
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: Coyote Clayton]
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07/27/24 03:23 PM
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LOL!!! I see what you did there! Love what they did. Having said that, I’ll buy one when they come to my house and put it in my window. I’ll give them a price and pay them what I want to. 12.344 seconds, no discussion. ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cool.gif)
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
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07/27/24 05:18 PM
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I would love to see GFW succeed with this for sure.It is a very proactive approach-hope they market it well and it takes off again. X2 X3
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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07/27/24 05:44 PM
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Amazing how many people have business ideas to fix a problem thats not even there, LOL, and none of them have any business of their own to even know of a problem that needs fixing !!
A fur buyer comes out with a jacket with fur and is immediately shredded by a few people due to hostile feelings of bad business they know nothing of, nice way to help the fur business move along people !!
No wonder fur isn't moving in this country, no one who traps it wears it, someone who wants people to buy it, starts to make one and is chastised for not doing it like someone else, still others want some thing different made for them just because the maker is going to try and make one, LOL
Got to love free enterprise, got to be awful stout to read and listen to others tell one how to do it as well!!
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: kinley31]
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07/27/24 07:01 PM
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Here's what I find amusing. GFW are not at the NTA convention this weekend in Sioux Falls where they should be. They need to be talking to trappers who bust their behind to produce the fur they need to keep their lights on. GFW is sitting this one out. They don't want to spend money on gas, lodging, a booth and listen to all the complaining about the fur market. They're sitting at home, free of expenses, posting about their new parka...free of charge, and everyone is buying in to the fact that they are rock stars and doing great things for the industry.
When you buy your parka, make sure you check the tag for country of origin. You going to rag on the Boss Man Mr. Dobbins for not being there too ? Geeesh some people are never happy. Groeny is opening up another market for fur and all you got to do is complain. This is something Groeny is going to do that I fully support. Get people wearing REAL fur again. This in turn may make others want to join the trend and bring back the market for coyotes
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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07/27/24 07:58 PM
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If he can get a couple hollywood movie stars to wear them in a movie theyll be off to the races Canada goose took off when some hollywood bimbo wore one naked on a smutts illustrated Magazine cover.
Last edited by Boco; 07/27/24 07:59 PM.
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: Boco]
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07/27/24 09:32 PM
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Great to see they are doing this. Best of luck. Hopefully this will lead to something similar with other fur.
Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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07/27/24 09:32 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished, why trappers are in the shape they are in today. Hopefully their idea works, they sell so many of those parka's they can't keep enough coyote's coming in for trim and even the nay sayer's finally have a decent market for their stinky tick bit butt sniffer's no one else wants.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: Groenewold Launches Coyote Parkas!
[Re: kinley31]
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07/27/24 11:31 PM
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Here's what I find amusing. GFW are not at the NTA convention this weekend in Sioux Falls where they should be. They need to be talking to trappers who bust their behind to produce the fur they need to keep their lights on. GFW is sitting this one out. They don't want to spend money on gas, lodging, a booth and listen to all the complaining about the fur market. They're sitting at home, free of expenses, posting about their new parka...free of charge, and everyone is buying in to the fact that they are rock stars and doing great things for the industry.
When you buy your parka, make sure you check the tag for country of origin. Wow. I had no idea businessmen where in business to make money. Thanks for the heads up.
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