My tractors so old it doesn't have a seat belt. I have had truck the same.

Main point you completely miss. CHOOSING to protect yourself and family is not government control your correct. BUT THIS IS GOVERNMENT MANDATED and that is the definition of government control. If you disagree please explain how I'm incorrect.


Your correct about these threads exposing how people think and reason or lack of.

FWIW They dont have seat belts in race cars. They use a harness. Completely different animal. Unlike a shoulder belt a harness wont break your neck.

What have you learned counselor? Judging other people without judging yourself?

Who's driving at those speeds to require a harness ? Do race cars have airbags ?

That said , I also don't support the mandates. Make your own decisions and then live with the consequences or enjoy the rewards.

Speaking of airbags , I cringe every time I see someone driving around with a little lap dog in their ,well, lap . Driver or passenger. If there's a bag deployment , it's going to be ugly. Quit smoking my pipe while I drove for that very reason.

Maybe instead of seat belt laws we need an intelligence test to drive.

Wouldn't hurt but won't account for mechanical failures or other things like deer.

We only need 10 laws to have a civilization. Not the thousands on the books we have

You learn a lot about people on these threads. Who is reasonable, rational and who has good judgment. Who makes good choices.


This is certainly the truth!! lol. I guess for those too independent and brave to wear a seatbelt the Darwin theory of natural selection will be validated

I'm not sure if you get news alerts for KSWO out of Lawton , but I got one a few hours ago where a 58 year old man was killed in Tillman county . Lost control in a turn , rolled and was ejected .

I agree with you on this one. The only problem, illegal immigrants aren’ t even taking a test to drive. Roads have become a lot more dangerous in the last three years.

I think the Earnhardt and petty families might disagree with that!!

Happens everyday. People not smart enough to put on their seat belts.

If that seat belt is rubbing your neck it can break it. I prefer to die rather than be paralyzed.

sounds like a constitutional violation, what if I don't want to answer questions and keep my mouth shut?

they going to charge me with a crime for not talking to the cops?

good question. if armed i will tell them. might get shot if the officer realizes you lied or gets scared cause you dont speak

In Pennsylvania you are required to answer truthfully, if they ask you. In the four or five times I’ve been pulled over while armed I’ve never been asked and I’ve never volunteered that information other than the last time when he could clearly see it laying in my briefcase because I forgot to flip the flap over before he walked up to my work truck.

All the professional drivers wear seat belts,thats good enough for me.

Someone mentioned the fishing. What's more important? Potentially catching a criminal or the constitution?

I would say the constitution every single time.

To catch criminals is good but violating the constitution is like becoming a criminal to catch a criminal.

They are more aware than the drivers that don’t wear them. They know what a crushed body looks like laying on the payment or inside a car.