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Is your opinion #8184904 07/30/24 04:04 PM 07/30/24 04:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2023 WI WI Outdoors OP trapper
WI Outdoors OP trapper Joined: Mar 2023 WI	more important than the constitution and your freedom. Just a question.

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8184912 07/30/24 04:10 PM 07/30/24 04:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Georgia	NO The Constitution strictly adhered to is paramount. Now my opinion is that there's alot going on that is patently unconstitutional and needs to be done away with. Follow the Constitution to the letter and most of the nonsense will resolve itself.

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8184984 07/30/24 05:26 PM 07/30/24 05:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa	More important, heck no. Protected by, yes.

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8184993 07/30/24 05:42 PM 07/30/24 05:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 New York border Cragar trapper
Cragar trapper Joined: Feb 2007 New York border	The only thing to me more important than being free and constitutionally protected , would be breathing and having a pulse. Freedom and the constitution comes in a very close 2nd place. NRA benefactor member

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185031 07/30/24 06:39 PM 07/30/24 06:39 PM
Joined: May 2010 MN C ceelmo.trap trapper
ceelmo.trap trapper C Joined: May 2010 MN	Freedom ? how much do we really have?

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185036 07/30/24 06:45 PM 07/30/24 06:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD Law Dog trapper
Law Dog trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD	The ban clan is slowly destroying our freedoms systematically, the things going on today that would never of happened just 20 years ago but go unchecked now. Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that! Jerry Herbst

Re: Is your opinion [Re: Law Dog] #8185046 07/30/24 07:03 PM 07/30/24 07:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania P Pafoxman trapper
Pafoxman trapper P Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania	Originally Posted by Law Dog The ban clan is slowly destroying our freedoms systematically, the things going on today that would never of happened just 20 years ago but go unchecked now. What freedoms have you lost in the last 20 years? (Something you hv NO control over, you are legally not allowed to do that you could 20 years ago) Not saying there isn't any.... just curious

Re: Is your opinion [Re: Pafoxman] #8185057 07/30/24 07:18 PM 07/30/24 07:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio	Originally Posted by Pafoxman Originally Posted by Law Dog The ban clan is slowly destroying our freedoms systematically, the things going on today that would never of happened just 20 years ago but go unchecked now. What freedoms have you lost in the last 20 years? (Something you hv NO control over, you are legally not allowed to do that you could 20 years ago) Not saying there isn't any.... just curious every new law, regulation, tax is a strike against freedom. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185070 07/30/24 07:34 PM 07/30/24 07:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania P Pafoxman trapper
Pafoxman trapper P Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania	There's always been new laws and regulations all through history. Gotta do better than that. Yes, taxes go up, never down. But we're talking freedoms. Something you're FORCED to do or not do. Saying you have to drive 35 mph on some roads isn't an example.

Re: Is your opinion [Re: Pafoxman] #8185077 07/30/24 07:42 PM 07/30/24 07:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD Law Dog trapper
Law Dog trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD	Originally Posted by Pafoxman Originally Posted by Law Dog The ban clan is slowly destroying our freedoms systematically, the things going on today that would never of happened just 20 years ago but go unchecked now. What freedoms have you lost in the last 20 years? (Something you hv NO control over, you are legally not allowed to do that you could 20 years ago) Not saying there isn't any.... just curious They want to take gas stoves away now where have you been, seatbelts, in NJ you get arrested for having a foot trap, Illinois you have to register an AR, gun bans, magazine bans, smoking bans think about it it’s happened more that you think. Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that! Jerry Herbst

Re: Is your opinion [Re: Pafoxman] #8185078 07/30/24 07:44 PM 07/30/24 07:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD Law Dog trapper
Law Dog trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD	Originally Posted by Pafoxman There's always been new laws and regulations all through history. Gotta do better than that. Yes, taxes go up, never down. But we're talking freedoms. Something you're FORCED to do or not do. Saying you have to drive 35 mph on some roads isn't an example. Just here to stir the pot again I see. Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that! Jerry Herbst

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185079 07/30/24 07:46 PM 07/30/24 07:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks	dont worry. big brother is looking out for you 20 years ago we had no zoning here 30 years ago you didnt have to get permission from a computer to buy a gun Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185082 07/30/24 07:49 PM 07/30/24 07:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD Law Dog trapper
Law Dog trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Central, SD	Did not need cage traps in several states years ago it goes on and on. Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that! Jerry Herbst

Re: Is your opinion [Re: Pafoxman] #8185089 07/30/24 07:54 PM 07/30/24 07:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio	Originally Posted by Pafoxman There's always been new laws and regulations all through history. Gotta do better than that. Yes, taxes go up, never down. But we're talking freedoms. Something you're FORCED to do or not do. Saying you have to drive 35 mph on some roads isn't an example. Yes and they're all infractions on freedoms. I think you're conflating freedoms with Rights. Bill of Rights is almost a dead letter now. The so-called far right SCOTUS(its really 3 libs, 3 squishy moderates, 1 libertarian, 2 conservatives) barely is keeping it alive. Obamacare? Forced to buy a product that you otherwise would not. Also, that same law dictated you had to buy coverage for things that most people would never use. Vaccine mandate was fairly recent lest we forget. Couldnt keep your job in healthcare, and other industries if you didnt get the jab unless you could get an exception. Cant buy a gas can that you could actually use. Soon you wont even be able to buy a vehicle that's gas powered. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185097 07/30/24 08:04 PM 07/30/24 08:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania P Pafoxman trapper
Pafoxman trapper P Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania	Not an expert on Obama care. But I know Mennonite and Amish aren't forced to get health insurance. Is there a religious exemption? I'll concede states that lost the right to trap as losing a freedom. But no smoking in public places? Yea... I'm on the governments side on that one.

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185101 07/30/24 08:07 PM 07/30/24 08:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania P Pafoxman trapper
Pafoxman trapper P Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania	Danny.... permission from a computer to buy a gun? So, you think your meth head neighbor who has four felony convictions should be able to purchase a gun and kill his spouse. Because freedom. Ok....

Re: Is your opinion [Re: Pafoxman] #8185111 07/30/24 08:16 PM 07/30/24 08:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio	Originally Posted by Pafoxman Danny.... permission from a computer to buy a gun? So, you think your meth head neighbor who has four felony convictions should be able to purchase a gun and kill his spouse. Because freedom. Ok.... do you think there should be a limit of how much hydric acid one can buy? I mean it kills people every year and destroys vehicles . http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Is your opinion [Re: WI Outdoors] #8185113 07/30/24 08:21 PM 07/30/24 08:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2019 WISCONSIN W Wild_WI trapper
Wild_WI trapper W Joined: Dec 2019 WISCONSIN	No one is actually free it's an illusion constructed to keep you complacent while people enrich their lives from your labor but I guess your free until they tell you your not

Re: Is your opinion [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8185114 07/30/24 08:22 PM 07/30/24 08:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania P Pafoxman trapper
Pafoxman trapper P Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania	Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB Originally Posted by Pafoxman There's always been new laws and regulations all through history. Gotta do better than that. Yes, taxes go up, never down. But we're talking freedoms. Something you're FORCED to do or not do. Saying you have to drive 35 mph on some roads isn't an example. Yes and they're all infractions on freedoms. I think you're conflating freedoms with Rights. Bill of Rights is almost a dead letter now. The so-called far right SCOTUS(its really 3 libs, 3 squishy moderates, 1 libertarian, 2 conservatives) barely is keeping it alive. Obamacare? Forced to buy a product that you otherwise would not. Also, that same law dictated you had to buy coverage for things that most people would never use. Vaccine mandate was fairly recent lest we forget. Couldnt keep your job in healthcare, and other industries if you didnt get the jab unless you could get an exception. Cant buy a gas can that you could actually use. Soon you wont even be able to buy a vehicle that's gas powered. You say they're all infractions on freedoms. Using that logic... the government should not hold big corporations accountable on how your food is processed. They could label poison as edible and sell it to you . Who cares if it's riddled with salmonella? You're free! No gov money spent on FAA. The airline should be free to decide if the plane you fly on is safe and figure out which runway is open. No zoning? You'd rather have Walmart buy the property next to you and put in a super center. At least you and Walmart are free. Just trying to get some people on here to use the brain God gave you and think things through instead of the glib, talk points that make no sense.

Re: Is your opinion [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8185118 07/30/24 08:24 PM 07/30/24 08:24 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania P Pafoxman trapper
Pafoxman trapper P Joined: Jul 2010 SE Pennsylvania	Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB Originally Posted by Pafoxman Danny.... permission from a computer to buy a gun? So, you think your meth head neighbor who has four felony convictions should be able to purchase a gun and kill his spouse. Because freedom. Ok.... do you think there should be a limit of how much hydric acid one can buy? I mean it kills people every year and destroys vehicles . Where did hydric acid come from answering a question about guns??

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