Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: NorthernTrapperO]
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07/30/24 02:43 PM
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danny clifton
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I would not be afraid to buy from Grahm or Jameson. Apple Road, Wayne Derrick, Schmitt Enterprises. Last bought was from an a vet in Indiana banned from here. He drives right by my house on his western adventures often and I bought 5 gallons. Some of those big seemingly popular big supply houses sell a lot of junk. I buy only traps and tools from them. Have never bought anything from Paul Dobbins I was disappointed in.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: NorthernTrapperO]
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07/30/24 03:36 PM
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I bought a couple gallons last year of both fox and coyote from FnT and MTP. Caught coyotes and bobcat. I am far from being as talented as most on this site and don’t mean that as a slight, just that I recognize I have a lot to learn. After reading the replies on here, I am now doing some research on a different source of urine.
Need to see what the legality is and requirements of keeping animals and collecting my own.
Last edited by Crappiekiller; 07/30/24 03:47 PM.
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: NorthernTrapperO]
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07/30/24 04:03 PM
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One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.
What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.
I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering?
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: NorthernTrapperO]
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07/30/24 04:48 PM
07/30/24 04:48 PM
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danny clifton
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cat bladder pee is liquid gold
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: bearcat2]
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07/30/24 07:47 PM
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One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.
What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.
I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering? Explained very well. Just never realized there was that much difference.
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: Crappiekiller]
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07/30/24 08:57 PM
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Yes sir
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One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.
What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.
I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering? Explained very well. Just never realized there was that much difference. That is just a theory. I wouldn't be surprised they are cutting it themselves and using artificial stuff.
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: NorthernTrapperO]
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07/31/24 10:50 AM
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yotetrapper30
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I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good?
Proudly banned from the NTA.
Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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07/31/24 10:54 AM
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Yes sir
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I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good? If it has a slight minty after taste you got the good stuff.
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts
[Re: Yes sir]
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07/31/24 10:55 AM
07/31/24 10:55 AM
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yotetrapper30
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I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good? If it has a slight minty after taste you got the good stuff. Hang on, let me go check....
Proudly banned from the NTA.
Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
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