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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184821
07/30/24 01:58 PM
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Sniper I am aware of smaller micron filters, however I only wish to control and remove the larger waste and impurities which is done nicely with the 190 micron from our experience. I also found that is just about the right filter to allow some of the desired salts and bodily waste identifiers to remain in the urine. Those particulates are the best odor identifiers and keep the urine true in odor to that specie.

I don't mean to sound too scientific but that is the best way I can explain it.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184831
07/30/24 02:20 PM
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I’ve used coyote, fox, and bobcat, my go to and what works best in my area is red fox. Eric

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184846
07/30/24 02:43 PM
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I would not be afraid to buy from Grahm or Jameson. Apple Road, Wayne Derrick, Schmitt Enterprises. Last bought was from an a vet in Indiana banned from here. He drives right by my house on his western adventures often and I bought 5 gallons. Some of those big seemingly popular big supply houses sell a lot of junk. I buy only traps and tools from them. Have never bought anything from Paul Dobbins I was disappointed in.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184881
07/30/24 03:36 PM
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I bought a couple gallons last year of both fox and coyote from FnT and MTP. Caught coyotes and bobcat. I am far from being as talented as most on this site and don’t mean that as a slight, just that I recognize I have a lot to learn. After reading the replies on here, I am now doing some research on a different source of urine.

Need to see what the legality is and requirements of keeping animals and collecting my own.

Last edited by Crappiekiller; 07/30/24 03:47 PM.

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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184903
07/30/24 04:03 PM
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One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.

What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.

I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering?

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184923
07/30/24 04:26 PM
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If I use any it’s bobkitty. Fox attracts too many deer down here. Just start catching cats and you’ll have all the urine you’ll need. Ain’t found an empty bladder on a cat yet, lol.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184949
07/30/24 04:48 PM
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cat bladder pee is liquid gold


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: bearcat2] #8185080
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.

What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.

I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering?


Explained very well. Just never realized there was that much difference.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185093
07/30/24 07:57 PM
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185099
07/30/24 08:06 PM
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I would be interested in getting some coyote urine, but only from one male, not several others mixed in

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Crappiekiller] #8185145
07/30/24 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Crappiekiller
Originally Posted by bearcat2
One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.

What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.

I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering?


Explained very well. Just never realized there was that much difference.

That is just a theory. I wouldn't be surprised they are cutting it themselves and using artificial stuff.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185164
07/30/24 09:17 PM
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Trapping community is pretty small not likely too many collecting on a commercial scale that aren't know

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185185
07/30/24 09:35 PM
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Tactical, Why just one male? Just curious. Eric

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185247
07/30/24 10:47 PM
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185323
07/31/24 07:26 AM
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Sorry Savell, i’m not sure i understand your comment. :-)

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185389
07/31/24 09:03 AM
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Urine is overrated.

Sometimes.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185460
07/31/24 10:50 AM
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I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good?


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: yotetrapper30] #8185464
07/31/24 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good?

If it has a slight minty after taste you got the good stuff.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Yes sir] #8185466
07/31/24 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good?

If it has a slight minty after taste you got the good stuff.


Hang on, let me go check....


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185467
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