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|  Re: Pile of freshwater mussel shells.
[Re: obaugh]
 #8185835 07/31/24 07:41 PM
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As I go down the river during trapping I often come across piles of freshwater mussel shells that very in size from about the size of a nickel to a fifty-cent piece. Sometimes hundreds in the area/ pile of about the size of  a trash can lid. I assume it is muskrats. Has anyone also noticed this sign while out trapping, have you set these locations,  are these areas frequently visited or is it a seasonal thing not associated with trapping season.Simple answer yes, some rivers here it’s a common thing and often about the only feed pile your going to find is a mussel shell pile 
 
 �Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
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|  Re: Pile of freshwater mussel shells.
[Re: 52Carl]
 #8185910 07/31/24 09:24 PM
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I have found that muskrats which dine on mussels regularly run larger than others. Mussels aren't everywhere, but when the rats find them they wear them out. They look like bodybuilders when you skin them out.This:^^^^^** 
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|  Re: Pile of freshwater mussel shells.
[Re: Bruce T]
 #8185983 07/31/24 10:44 PM
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Coon as well, but otter and coon tend to leave the shells scattered across the banks while rats pile them in one spot It can be fun searching around and downstream from those piles you can sometimes find the odd Pearl or two 
 
 �Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
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|  Re: Pile of freshwater mussel shells.
[Re: obaugh]
 #8186723 08/01/24 10:23 PM
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|  Re: Pile of freshwater mussel shells.
[Re: obaugh]
 #8186776 08/01/24 11:49 PM
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Muskrats feed heavily on mussels where they occur. Often times the muskrats will dig them and put them on the bank. There are a lot of theories as to how they open them as Muskrats don't have very strong front feet with a lot of dexterity. Some believe the muskrats run their claws over the shell and it relaxes the mussels so they open up some and they can eat the meat. My personal theory as a mussel biologist is that the muskrats deposit them at a feeding station and then come back and eat the meat as the mussels start to gape after being out of water for a bit. Of course, the feed stations get raided by raccoons, otters, mink, dogs, etc. as well. 
 I work frequently on the Duck River in middle Tennessee which is generally regarded as the most diverse and abundant mussel assemblage in the world with as many as 72 mussel species known from the river and around 50 species still ocuring.. At a few long-term monitoring sites, I have collected thousands of shells of several species including a number of federally endangered species that have all been eaten by muskrats, otters, and raccoons. A few years ago I collected all of the mussels I found at a muskrat feeding station on an old pickup truck tire and counted them. I then looked up their values in a book published by the American Fisheries Society and the estimated value of the mussels that a few muskrats ate was about $58,000. Of course this doesn't count all of the costs associated with endangered species recovery as well so this value is probably on the low side. We had one species that we are restoring that have very high levels of predation from muskrats. Approximately 20% of the animals we released were likely eaten by muskrats in the first year after release.
 
 We tend to think of predators largely as wolves, coyotes, fox, raccoons, etc. but even muskrats are extremely predatory in some waters. This is a prime example of another species that needs managed for the recovery of endangered species. I've know of several agencies and organizations that have utilized muskrat and raccoon trapping to reduce predatory pressure on mussels for recovery activities.
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|  Re: Pile of freshwater mussel shells.
[Re: Wiz]
 #8196025 08/14/24 06:10 PM
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Muskrats feed heavily on mussels where they occur. Often times the muskrats will dig them and put them on the bank. There are a lot of theories as to how they open them as Muskrats don't have very strong front feet with a lot of dexterity. Some believe the muskrats run their claws over the shell and it relaxes the mussels so they open up some and they can eat the meat. My personal theory as a mussel biologist is that the muskrats deposit them at a feeding station and then come back and eat the meat as the mussels start to gape after being out of water for a bit. Of course, the feed stations get raided by raccoons, otters, mink, dogs, etc. as well. 
 I work frequently on the Duck River in middle Tennessee which is generally regarded as the most diverse and abundant mussel assemblage in the world with as many as 72 mussel species known from the river and around 50 species still ocuring.. At a few long-term monitoring sites, I have collected thousands of shells of several species including a number of federally endangered species that have all been eaten by muskrats, otters, and raccoons. A few years ago I collected all of the mussels I found at a muskrat feeding station on an old pickup truck tire and counted them. I then looked up their values in a book published by the American Fisheries Society and the estimated value of the mussels that a few muskrats ate was about $58,000. Of course this doesn't count all of the costs associated with endangered species recovery as well so this value is probably on the low side. We had one species that we are restoring that have very high levels of predation from muskrats. Approximately 20% of the animals we released were likely eaten by muskrats in the first year after release.
 
 We tend to think of predators largely as wolves, coyotes, fox, raccoons, etc. but even muskrats are extremely predatory in some waters. This is a prime example of another species that needs managed for the recovery of endangered species. I've know of several agencies and organizations that have utilized muskrat and raccoon trapping to reduce predatory pressure on mussels for recovery activities.
The Meramac river in Missouri has some mighty famous mussel beds. The mussel poachers from Tennessee sure knew about them back when the shell market was booming lol |  |  |  
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