Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: walleyed]
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08/04/24 10:38 AM
08/04/24 10:38 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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If they do that here they will turn people into poachers with that type of nonsense. People should refuse to comply en masse and that crap goes away.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: walleyed]
#8188582
08/04/24 11:23 AM
08/04/24 11:23 AM
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Green County Wisconsin
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I am not even sure they care about meat poachers any more here.
in some counties 5 doe tags with each license and we can group hunt and share tags
last year we had 40+ tags in camp and shot 4 deer
you could absolutely abuse the heck out of the system
however if you were hunting private land and cutting your own deer and had the ability to shut up , you could abuse the heck out of the old system.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: walleyed]
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08/04/24 01:23 PM
08/04/24 01:23 PM
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NY regs https://dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/hunting/deer-bear/regulations#:~:text=Marking%20and%20Tagging%20Requirements,person%20who%20took%20the%20animal
Tagging Here's what you must do immediately upon killing a deer or bear:
1.Fill in all information on the carcass tag and report tag with ink that won't erase. 2.Detach the carcass tag from the report tag. Once filled in, the tag may not be altered. 3.Keep the report tag; you will need it when you report your deer or bear. 4.The month and date must also be cut or marked in ink on the margin of the carcass tag. 5.You do not need to attach the tag to the carcass while it is being dragged or physically carried from the place of kill to a camp or point where transportation is available. 6.Once you get to the camp or vehicle, attach the tag to the deer or bear immediately. 7.Keep the tag attached to the carcass until it is cut up and prepared for consumption.
so you can keep it in your ziplock bag till you get back to the truck
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: Boco]
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08/04/24 01:33 PM
08/04/24 01:33 PM
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If they do that here they will turn people into poachers with that type of nonsense. People should refuse to comply en masse and that crap goes away. do or did you have back tags in Ontario We had them in WI till 2015 , such a pain , stab a back tag holder through every coat you have , want to change layers , move your tag or run risk of a fine people are going to be so excited that they don't need a backtag anymore that printing or having printed a paper tag they keep in a sandwich bag is such a minor inconvenience compared to back tags , they will want to adopt.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: walleyed]
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08/04/24 01:58 PM
08/04/24 01:58 PM
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I purchase mine here in Illinois on line and print it out but it’s only a 3x5 square which I make numerous copies or go to rural king and they’ll print out a longer version waterproof for a couple buck fee for being a dealer Since I can't buy my license online (no printer or credit card), I'm stuck with folding up three 8.5" X 11" sheets of paper and putting them in a plastic bag which won't fit in my wallet. Also, that doesn't solve the issue of filling out wet, can't write on it, disintegrating paper carcass tags. This is just a tailor-made caveat for maneuvering hunters into position for a handful of revenue generating citations. Stupid beyond belief !!! You must have deer and all on this tag I presume? The problem is the beaurocrats have no clue what they are doing . Illinois offered a three year general license this year but you can’t get a three year habitat stamp or HIP certification for three years so what’s the point lol
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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08/04/24 02:31 PM
08/04/24 02:31 PM
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We had them in WI till 2015 , such a pain , stab a back tag holder through every coat you have , want to change layers , move your tag or run risk of a fine Back when PA had back tags they got attached to my small game/upland vest with the required amount of blaze orange which was always an outer garment. Same with rifle deer hunting (blaze vest) or archery deer (camo vest). That way you could shed or add clothing as needed without switching your back tag to a different garment.
Eh...wot?
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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08/04/24 03:41 PM
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If they do that here they will turn people into poachers with that type of nonsense. People should refuse to comply en masse and that crap goes away. do or did you have back tags in Ontario We had them in WI till 2015 , such a pain , stab a back tag holder through every coat you have , want to change layers , move your tag or run risk of a fine people are going to be so excited that they don't need a backtag anymore that printing or having printed a paper tag they keep in a sandwich bag is such a minor inconvenience compared to back tags , they will want to adopt. Never noticed my back tag. It is very convenient to hold your tags, pen. Water proof with a piece of duct tape to keep it closed. I will continue to wear one. As for the paper tag and trying to write on it.......... lots of days I hunt and get deer - rain, rain, rain and more rain. Guess if something happens I'll be explaining it to the judge here. At least he's a Republican and was raised on a farm with common sense. The last system wasn't broken so why were they trying to fix it ? It wasn't a lack of places to buy them. Town halls, Walmart, sports shops etc. all sold them. Harder to get ammo than licenses
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: walleyed]
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08/04/24 04:06 PM
08/04/24 04:06 PM
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I am guessing that you don't do drives through thick stuff
that tag holder would get hug up on stuff
most coats didn't come with a loop for the tag holder if you went out in the morning while it was 15 degrees and then were a driver mid day then back to sit before dark that was moving the tag
the last system was broke they were likely about to need all new printers had to stock special stock to print it on and not sure if NY uses a different color each year till near then end then went to one color for the last few years of the program. you would be the same guy to complain about how much of your tax and license dollars get wasted and printing with special printers on special stock and having to wear a tag around is a waste of those dollars. they were likely at a point , raise the price or let the old system go.
we are at a point were we are often forced to dump working but out dated computers that do special tasks , simply because they can not be updated any longer
we hit one of those big dates Oct 2025 where every Windows 10 PC has to be upgraded or decommissioned,
they were probably staring down de-commissioning all the terminals at the stores that sell licenses.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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08/04/24 06:45 PM
08/04/24 06:45 PM
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
walleyed
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NY regs https://dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/hunting/deer-bear/regulations#:~:text=Marking%20and%20Tagging%20Requirements,person%20who%20took%20the%20animal
Tagging Here's what you must do immediately upon killing a deer or bear:
1.Fill in all information on the carcass tag and report tag with ink that won't erase. 2.Detach the carcass tag from the report tag. Once filled in, the tag may not be altered. 3.Keep the report tag; you will need it when you report your deer or bear. 4.The month and date must also be cut or marked in ink on the margin of the carcass tag. 5.You do not need to attach the tag to the carcass while it is being dragged or physically carried from the place of kill to a camp or point where transportation is available. 6.Once you get to the camp or vehicle, attach the tag to the deer or bear immediately. 7.Keep the tag attached to the carcass until it is cut up and prepared for consumption.
so you can keep it in your ziplock bag till you get back to the truck Yup, Thank you for the list of regulations but we already know the tagging regulations forward & backward. Tissue paper tags are still a stupid bad idea !!! 
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"I Support Non-Resident Trapping"
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: Fisher Man]
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08/09/24 01:27 PM
08/09/24 01:27 PM
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walleyed took his license and license receipt to STAPLES office supply store in Watertown, N.Y. They measured 8.5" X 11" and we laminated them at a cost of around $5.00 for both documents, & we'll keep them in my vechile to show the DEC ENCON officer (game warden) if asked to produce them. Technically, one must carry licenses on one's person while engaged in hunting, fishing, or trapping but at 8.5" X 11" in size, you'd need to carry them in a back pack to take them along while afield, and since we are required to maintain these documents in an Intact & legible condition, this is our solution. Met up with two other groups of hunters who were also at STAPLES to laminate their licenses and one said he was going to make multiple copies of his carcass tag sheet so he had a dependable supply of extra tags. I guess Tissue Paper Licenses & Tags are going to have unintended consequences. 
Last edited by walleyed; 08/09/24 02:05 PM.
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: walleyed]
#8192209
08/09/24 01:49 PM
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walleyed took his license and license receipt to STAPLES office supply store in Watertown, N.Y. They measured 8.5" X 11" and we laminated them at a cost of around $5.00 for both documents, & we'll keep them in my vechile to show the DEC ENCON officer (game warden) if asked to produce them. Technically, one must carry licenses on one's person while engaged in hunting, fishing, or trapping but at 8.5" X 11" in size, you'd need to carry them in a back pack to take them along while afield, and since we are required to maintain these documents in an Intact & legible condition, this is our solution. Met up with two other groups of hunters who were also at STAPLES to laminate their licenses and one said he was going to make multiple copies of his carcass tag sheet so he had a dependable supply of extra tags. I guess Tissue Paper Licenses & Tags are going to have unintended consequences.  More plastic bags and more trees cut to make copies!  Dec will blow their head off!
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: walleyed]
#8192234
08/09/24 02:17 PM
08/09/24 02:17 PM
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BUT landowners liked the idea of back tags so we would know who is on the land. Not now, no back tags anymore for quite a few years......jk
Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. What's supposed to be ain't always is. Hopper Hunter
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: charles]
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08/09/24 04:55 PM
08/09/24 04:55 PM
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In NC we phone a toll free number and register our bi game animals with 24 hours. We cut a hole in our big game card before moving the animal. In New York we must report our game harvests within seven days of the kill date. I'll assume that the NYS DEC can't afford the funds to provide a "big game card", If they can't afford durable, tear-proof, water-proof game carcass tags. 
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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!!
[Re: charles]
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08/09/24 09:01 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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In NC we phone a toll free number and register our bi game animals with 24 hours. We cut a hole in our big game card before moving the animal. What if theres no phone and your at camp hunting for a couple weeks. Why do they assume everyone can get to a phone?
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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