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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8188526
08/04/24 10:18 AM
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Here in Virginia electronic everything is mandatory. Wonder what walleyes going to do when NY does that in a couple years.... Virginia started out like NY just moved to.

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8188555
08/04/24 10:38 AM
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If they do that here they will turn people into poachers with that type of nonsense.
People should refuse to comply en masse and that crap goes away.


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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8188582
08/04/24 11:23 AM
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I am not even sure they care about meat poachers any more here.

in some counties 5 doe tags with each license and we can group hunt and share tags

last year we had 40+ tags in camp and shot 4 deer

you could absolutely abuse the heck out of the system

however if you were hunting private land and cutting your own deer and had the ability to shut up , you could abuse the heck out of the old system.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8188661
08/04/24 01:23 PM
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NY regs
https://dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/hunting/deer-bear/regulations#:~:text=Marking%20and%20Tagging%20Requirements,person%20who%20took%20the%20animal

Tagging
Here's what you must do immediately upon killing a deer or bear:

1.Fill in all information on the carcass tag and report tag with ink that won't erase.
2.Detach the carcass tag from the report tag. Once filled in, the tag may not be altered.
3.Keep the report tag; you will need it when you report your deer or bear.
4.The month and date must also be cut or marked in ink on the margin of the carcass tag.
5.You do not need to attach the tag to the carcass while it is being dragged or physically carried from the place of kill to a camp or point where transportation is available.
6.Once you get to the camp or vehicle, attach the tag to the deer or bear immediately.
7.Keep the tag attached to the carcass until it is cut up and prepared for consumption.

so you can keep it in your ziplock bag till you get back to the truck


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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: Boco] #8188666
08/04/24 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
If they do that here they will turn people into poachers with that type of nonsense.
People should refuse to comply en masse and that crap goes away.



do or did you have back tags in Ontario

We had them in WI till 2015 , such a pain , stab a back tag holder through every coat you have , want to change layers , move your tag or run risk of a fine

people are going to be so excited that they don't need a backtag anymore that printing or having printed a paper tag they keep in a sandwich bag is such a minor inconvenience compared to back tags , they will want to adopt.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8188681
08/04/24 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by jalstat
I purchase mine here in Illinois on line and print it out but it’s only a 3x5 square which I make numerous copies or go to rural king and they’ll print out a longer version waterproof for a couple buck fee for being a dealer


Since I can't buy my license online (no printer or credit card),
I'm stuck with folding up three 8.5" X 11" sheets of paper
and putting them in a plastic bag which won't fit in my wallet.

Also, that doesn't solve the issue of filling out wet,
can't write on it, disintegrating paper carcass tags.

This is just a tailor-made caveat for maneuvering hunters
into position for a handful of revenue generating citations.

Stupid beyond belief !!!

You must have deer and all on this tag I presume? The problem is the beaurocrats have no clue what they are doing . Illinois offered a three year general license this year but you can’t get a three year habitat stamp or HIP certification for three years so what’s the point lol

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8188706
08/04/24 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
We had them in WI till 2015 , such a pain , stab a back tag holder through every coat you have , want to change layers , move your tag or run risk of a fine


Back when PA had back tags they got attached to my small game/upland vest with the required amount of blaze orange which was always an outer garment. Same with rifle deer hunting (blaze vest) or archery deer (camo vest).

That way you could shed or add clothing as needed without switching your back tag to a different garment.


Eh...wot?

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8188767
08/04/24 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by Boco
If they do that here they will turn people into poachers with that type of nonsense.
People should refuse to comply en masse and that crap goes away.



do or did you have back tags in Ontario

We had them in WI till 2015 , such a pain , stab a back tag holder through every coat you have , want to change layers , move your tag or run risk of a fine

people are going to be so excited that they don't need a backtag anymore that printing or having printed a paper tag they keep in a sandwich bag is such a minor inconvenience compared to back tags , they will want to adopt.


Never noticed my back tag. It is very convenient to hold your tags, pen. Water proof with a piece of duct tape to keep it closed. I will continue to wear one.
As for the paper tag and trying to write on it.......... lots of days I hunt and get deer - rain, rain, rain and more rain.
Guess if something happens I'll be explaining it to the judge here. At least he's a Republican and was raised on a farm with common sense.
The last system wasn't broken so why were they trying to fix it ?
It wasn't a lack of places to buy them. Town halls, Walmart, sports shops etc. all sold them.
Harder to get ammo than licenses


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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8188788
08/04/24 04:06 PM
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I am guessing that you don't do drives through thick stuff

that tag holder would get hug up on stuff

most coats didn't come with a loop for the tag holder
if you went out in the morning while it was 15 degrees and then were a driver mid day then back to sit before dark that was moving the tag

the last system was broke
they were likely about to need all new printers
had to stock special stock to print it on and not sure if NY uses a different color each year till near then end then went to one color for the last few years of the program.
you would be the same guy to complain about how much of your tax and license dollars get wasted and printing with special printers on special stock and having to wear a tag around is a waste of those dollars.
they were likely at a point , raise the price or let the old system go.

we are at a point were we are often forced to dump working but out dated computers that do special tasks , simply because they can not be updated any longer

we hit one of those big dates Oct 2025 where every Windows 10 PC has to be upgraded or decommissioned,

they were probably staring down de-commissioning all the terminals at the stores that sell licenses.


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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8188875
08/04/24 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
NY regs
https://dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/hunting/deer-bear/regulations#:~:text=Marking%20and%20Tagging%20Requirements,person%20who%20took%20the%20animal

Tagging
Here's what you must do immediately upon killing a deer or bear:

1.Fill in all information on the carcass tag and report tag with ink that won't erase.
2.Detach the carcass tag from the report tag. Once filled in, the tag may not be altered.
3.Keep the report tag; you will need it when you report your deer or bear.
4.The month and date must also be cut or marked in ink on the margin of the carcass tag.
5.You do not need to attach the tag to the carcass while it is being dragged or physically carried from the place of kill to a camp or point where transportation is available.
6.Once you get to the camp or vehicle, attach the tag to the deer or bear immediately.
7.Keep the tag attached to the carcass until it is cut up and prepared for consumption.

so you can keep it in your ziplock bag till you get back to the truck


Yup,

Thank you for the list of regulations but we already know
the tagging regulations forward & backward.

Tissue paper tags are still a stupid bad idea !!! mad


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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8192153
08/09/24 12:24 PM
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Once again New York hunters and trappers are faced with decisions of mental midget idiots from the governor on down through NYSDEC. Why should we have to deal with paper tags??? How are we supposed to keep a wet, or snowy, bloody tag attached to a deer or bear until consumption? Another brain fart from a desk jockey in Albany.Stupidity at it's best!!!!

If you look at the regional zone map of the hunting/trapping guide you will see that there are two 8m areas and no 8n area.. Doesn't anyone proof read these things for accuracy?

I get along with our local forest rangers and game wardens, but have lost respect for most of the rest of DEC.

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: Fisher Man] #8192193
08/09/24 01:27 PM
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walleyed took his license and license receipt to STAPLES office supply store
in Watertown, N.Y. They measured 8.5" X 11" and we laminated them at a cost
of around $5.00 for both documents, & we'll keep them in my vechile to show
the DEC ENCON officer (game warden) if asked to produce them.

Technically, one must carry licenses on one's person while engaged in
hunting, fishing, or trapping but at 8.5" X 11" in size, you'd need to carry
them in a back pack to take them along while afield, and since we are required to
maintain these documents in an Intact & legible condition, this is our solution.

Met up with two other groups of hunters who were also at STAPLES to laminate
their licenses and one said he was going to make multiple copies
of his carcass tag sheet so he had a dependable supply of extra tags.

I guess Tissue Paper Licenses & Tags
are going to have unintended consequences. mad

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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8192209
08/09/24 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
walleyed took his license and license receipt to STAPLES office supply store
in Watertown, N.Y. They measured 8.5" X 11" and we laminated them at a cost
of around $5.00 for both documents, & we'll keep them in my vechile to show
the DEC ENCON officer (game warden) if asked to produce them.

Technically, one must carry licenses on one's person while engaged in
hunting, fishing, or trapping but at 8.5" X 11" in size, you'd need to carry
them in a back pack to take them along while afield, and since we are required to
maintain these documents in an Intact & legible condition, this is our solution.

Met up with two other groups of hunters who were also at STAPLES to laminate
their licenses and one said he was going to make multiple copies
of his carcass tag sheet so he had a dependable supply of extra tags.

I guess Tissue Paper Licenses & Tags are going to have unintended consequences. mad

More plastic bags and more trees cut to make copies! grinDec will blow their head off!

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8192234
08/09/24 02:17 PM
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BUT landowners liked the idea of back tags so we would know who is on the land. Not now, no back tags anymore for quite a few years......jk


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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8192301
08/09/24 03:28 PM
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I'm going to copy my tags on toilet paper (used). That's what I think of this fiasco.

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8192322
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In NC we phone a toll free number and register our bi game animals with 24 hours. We cut a hole in our big game card before moving the animal.

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: charles] #8192362
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Originally Posted by charles
In NC we phone a toll free number and register our bi game animals with 24 hours. We cut a hole in our big game card before moving the animal.


In New York we must report our game harvests within seven days of the kill date.

I'll assume that the NYS DEC can't afford the funds to provide a "big game card",
If they can't afford durable, tear-proof, water-proof game carcass tags. whistle


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Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8192383
08/09/24 05:17 PM
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I purchased my license Monday, and the clerk said she had 3 rolls of the waterproof paper, but DEC told her not to use it.

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: walleyed] #8192527
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There won’t be a deer left in the county, lot of outlaws here.

Re: New York State Sporting Licenses !!! [Re: charles] #8192620
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Originally Posted by charles
In NC we phone a toll free number and register our bi game animals with 24 hours. We cut a hole in our big game card before moving the animal.

What if theres no phone and your at camp hunting for a couple weeks.
Why do they assume everyone can get to a phone?


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