Walleyed, now you can print off 100 doe tags for your zone if you want.

But really, there will be people printing doe and buck tags and shooting as much as they want.
How is anyone going to regulate those law breakers.
And trust me there will be more people doing it than people think

This^^

This is another attempt by NYS to generate revenues from a group of people, who other than their license fees, generate very little extra $$ for the state. Very few hunters and fishermen are fined for violating the fish and game laws.

As I said in my initial post,

I don't have a computer printer or a cell phone to utilize any of that technology
nor the technical expertise to accomplish any of that stuff.

I just want to hunt or trap without all the complicated minutia involved
in this poorly thought out intrusion into my outdoor experience.

I go hunting & trapping to escape all of this complicated B.S. crap.

I don't want it or need it in my life.

Dale,

I'm lucky if I can fill just one doe tag in my current state of health !!!

As it is, I haven't been able to fill any deer tag in the last several years
so I won't be any threat to the deer herd !!!

Besides, I don't break any game laws, & respect the DEC regulations.

NY has not done away with DECALS, but they will no longer have licenses and tags printed on that shiny plastic valeron. Remember when they switched to valeron? It required the license vendors (local ma/pa shops, town clerks, Walmarts, etc) to supply a dedicated computer that was hooked up to the state supplied valeron printer using state supplied valeron "paper". This also meant that all staff needed to know how to log in to that dedicated computer in order to handle transactions. They needed to know how to troubleshoot problems with the proprietary printer and where the rolls of valeron were stored. They got paid nothing for all this effort - the only time they made a dime was when they sold a license or tag. Many, including town clerks, opted out of issuing licenses because of this. Now, they do not need a dedicated computer or space for it, do not need space for a special printer or storing special valeron "paper". So, SELLING licenses just got easier, and should keep more places open to SELLING. It also SAVES the DEC money paying for specialized printers and paper. I don't see how anyone thinks the DEC is going to profit from this change (a change which has been made in plenty of other states years ago and they seem to have survived).

As for BUYING, well, the options remain the same as there has been for years - in person, call on a phone or order online.

As for USING, yeah, it's change, and no one likes change, but for MOST people, it will become easier. During our time, we remember having to carry a pen to fill out PAPER tags and DMPs. During our time, we can figure out how to keep our field toilet paper and PBJ sandwiches dry, so it really isn't that hard.

As for ABUSE, well, plenty of people were making regular visits to get their tags replaced for a small fee, so there will still be games played with tags. There will still be those putting their wives buck tag on the first one, etc. Not having to wear a BACK TAG anymore may make it harder to catch trespassers, but most didn't like back tags anyways. I am sure the ECOs will be told the priority for the next year or two on this subject is EDUCATING hunters, not writing tickets for plain paper issues.

Sure will be nice when the seasons open back up so we can focus on real issues.

Erict,

When you start writing on your toilet paper and PBJ sandwich in the rain I'll accept your explanation!

And yes someone always abused tags but this temptation will make it rampant.

And these are important issues to many of us. Accepting changes within Albany without questions and without "real focus" has been the downward spiral of New York state.

Yup,

And they were made of durable, tear resistant, waterproof paper
that was very easy to write on with a pen & ink as I still have
some of those old tags from the 70's & 80's

Yes indeed,

It's all going to be nothing but sunshine & blue skies, and rainbows & unicorns.

I'll be thinking of that come November when it's raining or snowing,
and I'm struggling to fill out my wet, tissue paper, deer tag in a 20 knot wind.

LMAO !!!!

As I stated before, this change is not about improvement , practicality , or function. It’s about Albany bureaucrats saving money not having to provide Valeron licenses so they can take the money saved and spend it on woke policies.

This new lic issue has come up at our region 6 Fish and Wildlife Management Board meetings several times, and from what I’ve witnessed sportsman and landowner reps. Have little to no input.

The state is trying to save money for all the illegal immigrants… and all the fine money when they don’t approve of your attempt to comply is just a bonus… for the illegal immigrants!

I'm going to have the town clerk print out or copy my license on Rite-in-the-Rain paper... and if it's dry when I fill out my tags, I'll use a Sharpie. If it's wet, I'll use a pencil, then ink it in later. And if ENCON gives me grief, I'll see them in court

NYSDEC has been turned into one of Hochul's political agendas. You can see that when she wanted Coyote hunts stopped last year, with the amount of Coyotes taken during these two or three day hunts, why else would NYSDEC stop them when they know how their numbers are.

New York never fails to disappoint.........

As posted before, Wisconsin has it electronic.
I like having printed copies .
After printing I cut them down to the borders and laminate with HD clear packaging tape.
Cheap, easy and waterproof.

Cannot laminate carcass tag , has to be filled out in the field.

That method MAY be suitable for the license itself,
in your particular state,

but laminating the carcass tags prohibits you're ability
to follow the mandated legal procedure for legally
filling out the carcass tag.

The carcass tag MUST be completely filled out IN INK,
as soon as one harvests a game animal.

If you've laminated the carcass tag ahead of time,
you can't legally comply with the regulation that the
carcass tag must be completed IN INK because it
won't be considered indelible & permanent when it
is written on the packing tape or lamination.

That would be a guaranteed citation here in NYS.

Just like stopping Squirrel hunting contests.And we still have no Dove season even though plenty of hunters have asked for it.

Pennsylvania uses valeron tags. I order online and have them shipped to me but, when you do that, you have to print certain tags at home. If I recall correctly, the pheasant stamp and state migratory bird stamp were the two I had to print. I have no idea why they can't send those two in valeron with the rest. But I never liked the idea of having flimsy paper tags that are easily damaged and made illegible. The valeron tags are tough and durable.

I keep all my tags in a holder along with my ID because I don't carry my wallet in the field. Pulling the tags out and stuffing them back in to tag various critters doesn't hurt the valeron tags but wears out the paper tags. I can't imaging having to fill out and affix a paper tag to a critter in adverse weather conditions and having it stay intact.

We have to tag critters before we move them. I attach my big game tags inside the ear of the deer or bear then twist tie or zip tie the ear shut around it. They usually hold up that way, don't know about a paper tag though. I guess you could put it in a zip-lock baggie.

Turkeys are problematic, I attach to the leg but usually have to reattach a time or two on the way out because I carry them over my shoulder by the legs. I can't 9imagine a paper tag surviving that, even in good weather.

Like someone above said, this sound like clueless non-hunting, non-trapping bureaucrats making bad decisions for folks that do hunt and trap.

VT has the same ridiculous thing print your own license and tags. A lot of people have lost tags off their deer dragging them out. The license falls apart in your wallet. VT has made a transportation tag that you write all your information on and a fix it to your animals. It’s a vinyl tag

Malicious compliance is what is needed here.

A friend of mine years ago hated the fact that temporary license plates (paper) only came with holes on the bottom only for the license plate screws. Some cars have the screws on the top. So he mounted the plate on upside down. He got pulled over for it. He told the cop that he didn't carry a hole punch with him , but the plate was affixed to the car as the law required. Cop let him go.

Same guy , different time with a different car got pulled over for a cracked windshield. Cop told him he couldn't drive the car like that. He told the cop the windshield was on backorder. So he went back to the shop and removed the windshield. Couple days later a different cop pulled him over for no windshield. He told the second cop he got pulled over for a cracked windshield and removed it as it was unsafe to drive with a hazardous windshield. He also informed the cop that there was no DMV regulation to not having a windshield but you couldn't have a cracked one. Just like an older CJ type Jeep where you can fold down or remove the windshield. Cop let him go.

WI tags you never filled out with an ink pen , they were slit the date with your knife even when we had the plastic backtag material

LOVE NOT HAVING BACK TAGS ANYMORE they were such a hassle , moving them to every coat or layer , hunting in the rain issues

obviously you have been playing games like keeping an ink pen on you deer hunting or keeping it warm enough to work
you're just playing a slightly different game now.
the library generally will print what you need for about a dime a page

you state the decades old decals tags , which means they were running into the issue that printers were probably failing , if the printers were not completely redesigned for the new computer tech they won't even plug into a new computer.

it is the way it is going , 6 years ago there was a legal requirement that we had to keep the PD open 24 hours a day because court payments needed to be made any time of day. they changed the law and now the PD desk can close because they made it available to pay online 24 hours a day.

you are not wrong it is all about cost savings on the administrative side , the supply side , and they really don't care how they inconvenience you.