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Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8189181
08/05/24 10:22 AM
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At Marty Sennekers demo in Sioux, he said the arteries are exposed on K9s high and low, middle of the neck was no good. I believe he learned this when sending animals to FIC for testing and approving his system. He was showing some nice 3D internal imaging of the coyotes neck. He preferred to anchor low instead of high.


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Re: Questions about snares [Re: Spike369] #8189706
08/05/24 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike369
Where does it say in the Regs where it's illegal to snare squirrels and rabbits? It's not even addressed. Talks about certain requirements for snares certain distances off the ground that aren't required if they are below that. The Regs don't address coon, possum or skunk snareing either. But it's Legal with written permission.

I didn’t ask about rabbits, I asked about squirrels. So you think every state, province, or country is going to have the same regs as, evidently, your VA? I’m familiar with states that require snares to have a deer lock, which prevents it from closing less than 2 1/2 inches. Boy, that’s going to catch a lot of squirrels. And another requirement in some states is that bottom of snare loop can be no higher than 10” from the ground. No where close to the snares set on poles waist high in the above referenced video.

Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8190116
08/06/24 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Manfred
Alaska Department of Fish and Game writes about snaring suirrels on their website:
https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=833
Don´t know how old the article is, but perhaps it is still legal there?


I have seen some videos about snaring rabbits in Britain.
They use free running snares made from brass wire (usually 6 strand) pegged to the ground.
Some of the rabbits seam to be stiff already when they collect them. But that could be caused by preadators like weasels, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TkqColuhvI

Here is how they make these snares:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afKTDlUupo






Definitely legal here to snare all the squirrels you want. No minimums or requirements on heights or gear, Rabbits too for that matter


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Re: Questions about snares [Re: dixieland] #8190196
08/06/24 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dixieland
Originally Posted by Spike369
Where does it say in the Regs where it's illegal to snare squirrels and rabbits? It's not even addressed. Talks about certain requirements for snares certain distances off the ground that aren't required if they are below that. The Regs don't address coon, possum or skunk snareing either. But it's Legal with written permission.

I didn’t ask about rabbits, I asked about squirrels. So you think every state, province, or country is going to have the same regs as, evidently, your VA? I’m familiar with states that require snares to have a deer lock, which prevents it from closing less than 2 1/2 inches. Boy, that’s going to catch a lot of squirrels. And another requirement in some states is that bottom of snare loop can be no higher than 10” from the ground. No where close to the snares set on poles waist high in the above referenced video.

If the snare is less than a certain height there is no requirement for a deer stop. Try reading all of the regulations before you start chewing on me!

Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8190365
08/06/24 10:24 PM
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Here is a response I received from one states G&F. That’s why I asked what states are legal. It’s almost if you pin the department down, and comply by what little is written, they want you to react to what they meant to say, but didn’t. Here is the response:

“ Snares or any sort of trap are not a legal method of take for squirrels, only for furbearers. The only exception would be for a nuisance wildlife situation when live traps and snares could be used in accordance with the rules you mentioned.

Xxxxx xxxxx
Nongame Mammal/Furbearer Program Leader”

So the keyword is whether or not “furbearers” are referenced in the snaring and trapping section.

Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8190390
08/06/24 11:17 PM
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Red squirrels are furbearers-check your WFMC.


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Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8190541
08/07/24 04:42 AM
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You already know the answer. You just want to argue.

Re: Questions about snares [Re: Boco] #8190846
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Originally Posted by Boco
Red squirrels are furbearers-check your WFMC.

So I guess that is somewhere in Canada. Not every state in the U.S lists squirrels as a furbearer. Thanks White17 for answering the original question, “ which states is it legal to snare squirrels”, and could be expanded to, “Which states considers a squirrel to be a furbearer, and/or, therefore legal to snare?”

Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8190923
08/07/24 04:47 PM
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Does anybody here have experience with the SAC1000 foot snare device?



Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8201131
08/22/24 12:21 PM
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A Japanese boar snare with a long spiral spring used as snare thrower and snare lock.





Does his way of bringing the catch home alive and butchering it there realy improve the quality of the meat?
I guess he somehow keeps them, until the level of stress hormones decreases?



Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8201168
08/22/24 02:00 PM
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In ALASKA, we can snare bears (and Squirrels). I have never used the SAC1000 that you pictured. We use this a bucket snare that is similar in that it holds the bears paw in a snare. The bear reaches into the bucket to get the bait, triggering the snare, the spring closes it and when the bear pulls back, the snare is in place holding the paw. The bucket is about 5-6 foot up attached to the side of a tree. The height will keep little bears or cubs from reaching into the bucket. Works well on wild bears and bears that are around humans. It is a great tool for problems bears near people or trashing you cabin. This is just one example of foot snaring. There are a few others that work too.

https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/animal/WHM15.html

You will have to copy and paste, the computer isn't working well today.

If you really want info. call AK Fish and Game Biologist for Unit 16. There is a predator control program where you can snare as many bears as you want. Some fight it, some don't. Most brown bears will be really mad and try to get justice when they see you. Most black bears will not try to attack while still tied to the tree. Some will if you let them go. Some you cannot let go unless darted by Fish and Game. The first year we had to let the brown bears go. We had to call Fish and Game and they met us out there and darted them so we could let them go. They changed that right away. Now you can snare brown bears. And the rules change each year. They change them to help us get the results they want. Not the other way around. The state uses us to manage the animals. You can get a permit to fly around and shoot wolves from the air. Why, because gas is so expensive, they let us do it for free and we pay them a fee to do the paperwork. Cost's them nothing, it's all on us if you want to do it. Get a plane, a lot of insurance, permit and paperwork, go fly around and get some. It's not as easy as it sounds either. Very expensive insurance besides the airplane your throwing around up there dodging trees while shooting at running targets. Not easy but a lot of fun.

Sorry we are full of people up here. We only let one of you in when one of you leaves first! Canada has lot's of room for people, try over there first.

If the first trappers that settled the west had some common sense rules to follow, that is how Alaska is for trapping. We don't have to have all the rules you do down there. You can still trap just like it was 100 years ago. You just have to follow some simple rules and use common sense when managing your trapline or animals. Back to bear snares......


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Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8201586
08/23/24 06:13 AM
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For relasing an angry bear without anesthetizing him, you sure need some balls...
I have shown this video to a nephew of mine recently.
We have no bears here. Have been working with cattle all my life. But dealing with a predator this size (or even the large browns) seems a different game.
If I had something do say, I would allow you to dart them yourself if needed.



Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8201599
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A home made snare thrower for rabbits and gamefowl with a trigger concept I had never seen before:



Re: Questions about snares [Re: Manfred] #8201630
08/23/24 07:45 AM
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I’ve never seen a pig that quiet after it’s been secured by the snout!


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