Giving up on explaining my point but thanks for thinking of me anyway goofball. Im either terrible at explaining it or use guys are terrible at understanding it.

You are correct…

Of course I am

You ever call me that again and I promise, this old man will look you up !

“How do these neighborhood or city coyotes live with constant human scent and foreign objects?”



I’ll bite.

They aren’t exploited by people!!!

If you can’t see that, you got a long way to go! If they’re around people all the time, and nothing bad ever happens to them, they’re not likely to view humans negatively!



I’ve always wanted to go trap coyotes in LA county. You know, a place where nobody messes with them, they have puppies and kitties to eat, garbage cans to raid, human smell probably means food to them.

I bet a guy would get away with all kinds of shenanigans……..for a while.

But eventually, he’s gonna get that dumb unexploited population whittled down to a few exploited individuals that aren’t gonna fall for those shenanigans.



I had a guy tell me once you don’t have to worry about scent because coyotes regularly came up into his yard at night and sniffed around and caused trouble. And there was human scent all over the place.

I agreed with him, in that situation you don’t have to worry to much about human scent. Because the coyotes are EXPECTING to see hear and smell the sights sounds and smells of humans there.

But go way back in the way back.

Human intrusion doesn’t “belong” there and coyotes aren’t expecting it there. So when it’s there, it’s cause for alarm (if, again, they’re exploited coyotes).

Or an area that hasn’t had any human activity for 10-11 months than all of a sudden does.

And again, it all goes back to the level of human exploitation those coyotes have been subjected to and how recently it has occurred (and perhaps, how effective it was).

Boone I’ve said it before I’m glad I don’t have to kill the coyotes you deal with.

I don't blame u one bit. I will swear it was an honest typo but if u ever look me up you have been warned u will swallow whatever u try to bite off

If u don't believe it was a typo and want to meet half way u call it

When I lived in IL I trapped on a place that had a dead hog pit. About 30-40 yards from that pit was a big stone.

I made a flat set in front of that stone, with the lure on the stone.

*I caught a coyote, rebed the trap in the same trap bed and caught another.

(Repeat from * 6.5 times).

In other words, I caught 13 coyotes from that one stone... with the trap re-bed in the same hole every time.

If memory serves, I relured it once or twice in that time.

When I first set it, it was cut pasture sod. When the last coyote was caught it was 4" deep wallowed loose dirt.

Just throwing that out there.

I know this post is about remakes, but for the most part I think it is an educational thread. It has been for me.
Hopefully some youngsters will take a look and get something out of it; so I am gonna say this...

When I was 12. I caught 6 coyotes within about two weeks on our farm. I thought I was a trapping machine. I was using all remakes of what I had caught and nothing else, plus a few flat sets that had the same lures/bait. Then, it got tough and I couldn't catch anything. I was using the same old bait and lure, and urine that I had been using and was just not getting any results. I was frustrated. I had some diggers and I didn't know at that time how to deal with them cause they would visit the trap every night but I couldn't catch them I checked traps daily then, cause it was like opening presents on Christmas day.

So I rode by bicycle over to the old trappers place that taught me and asked for help. He told me to just let it ride a day or two and in the meantime go catch some mice. So I went out to back of house and found some mouse runs in a cactus and set some snap traps. Caught several of them the next day.

We moved about 15 feet away from the digger problem and he told me to find a spot for the trap and blend it in. Then he took the rebar stake and punched a whole and have me shove the whole mouse in it, and that was it. Right after that, he went about 30 feet away from there and took one of my traps and made a set of his own. He placed in front of a bluestem grass, bedded and blended it perfectly. I thought I did a good job blending a trap, but he made me envious cause how natural it looked. He then took his cigarette lighter out and caught that clump of grass on fire. He let it burn to about 1/3 of it left and then used the urine I had collected from a coyote from a previous catch on the same place and put the grass clump fire out with it.

Next day when I got off the schoolbus and rode my bike to check the traps, there were two coyotes waiting for me. Never will forget it.

I call coyotes in WY in counties where there are USDA trappers, county predator control trappers, plane gunning, ranchers using cyanide guns, school kids driving to school with rifles, (shh dont tell the feds) and every guy layed off for the winter calling them, I call them super coyotes. They are a challenge. And there is still coyotes. Not a lot but still there. still take livestock at times.

Here in KS feedlots you can stack them up. My personal best is 7 at one spot. Half are mangy. They get crowded up like that you toss a lot of them. Get out away from dead piles they are a lot healthier. When there is less competition they are not as brave. Crowded up they are like coons. KS is not a people population heavy state. I guess remake success depends on where you are. Big pasture, not many people, I do best setting right outside the catch circle. Do best not moving stuff also.

feedlot coyote

Personally I feel it depends upon the population density, experience and many other items that will cause each coyote to react the way they do. Just like people, even though we have our general habits, we all might react differently to the same situation. Remember, critters don't watch the same videos or read the same magazine articles was we do so they don't know how they are suppose to react. Lot's of great information in this thread!

And we have a winner!!! Exactly my point, everyone’s coyotes are different and he thinks just because he tested and it didn’t work for him and his coyotes, then it doesn’t work for anyone. I’ve tried just about everything in the archives and what’s been posted since to find what works for me. I’ve watched his videos and even found some of the lures he uses with success don’t do anything for me. Some lures that don’t work for him will produce multiple catches at the same location for me. Every coyote is different. Thanks for pointing it out.

As I’ve stated multiple times in this post and previous posts, I trap working properties. Working properties means human scent, tractors, ATV’s, trucks, etc on the regular.

I even stated in other threads I tried setting my “backing” in the kennel runs and let the dogs slobber and pee on it for a week and then tried it, didn’t work for me, even after reading of others success with it. My reasoning is that when he hunt, dogs are running and peeing and dumping everywhere during the hunts. So it’s not exactly something new to them whereas for someone else it’s something their coyotes don’t encounter often, if ever.

It’s the same thing as people on here and their coyotes changing routines because of night hunters. I night hunt and trap the same properties. I catch and shoot. I haven’t seen a change, yet. But I can see their point of view in their areas where everyone and their brother is out riding and shooting. We do it differently and maybe that’s why we haven’t seen that yet. I’m not doubting their findings, or saying they’re wrong. I just haven’t seen it yet. They aren’t wrong and I’m not right, lol.

Some folks on here just refuse to believe anything other than what they do can work for someone else. Then they want to talk down to them and make claims they can’t explain or back up.

That’s a prime GA coyote right there!!

A lot of times I reset the first trap, then make a paw set on the trap circle edge, using only the paw of the one I caught in a shallow dirt hole.
Several times I caught two coyote, one in each trap, but many times I got the next one in that paw set

Wannabe I've stated in many posts coyotes are different from one coyote to another I've also stated coyotes can be a bit different from region to region. Lots of times when I state my findings I'll say "my coyotes or the coyotes in my area". I'm also alot of times talking about the more cautious ones in my area, the dumb ones will fall for about anything so they dont matter. Across the board my average coyote isn't the same as Boones average coyote because there's a lot more uneducated coyotes here "thank goodness" but what I see from my more cautious coyotes lines up with what other guys I compare notes with from other parts of the country that really understand coyotes see with spooky/educated/ cautious coyotes. I will say I think some people over play the difference thing because they are satisfied with their results and lose the opportunity to learn. Coyotes are different individually and from region to region but are also wired the same in A LOT of ways. If you have enough nieve coyotes you can catch coyotes on lures or baits and methods you wouldn't catch them on in areas of low populations/ high pressures and think your way is good enough. I know because I've been there. We have lots of coyotes and when I started I thought I had it figured out because I was happy with my results. But for the most part you can take the methods used by the guys with low populations and spooky coyotes and they will work in other areas. The exception being if a type of set or lure has been over used and the coyotes are on to that particular thing. As I visited with more knowledgeable trappers, learned from them, compared notes with them, got better at observing coyotes, started running test sets and cameras I started seeing I'm missing more coyotes than I thought. And I started seeing there's a lot of advice out there given that is based primarily on catching the easy ones. And some of the people just don't know what they don't know. There a lot of guys out there that know more than me and know certain things I don't and I'm always trying to learn and compare notes from them and with them. But there's also guys out there are trying to sell u stuff or are trying to enlarge their egos that are putting out poor information either because of ignorance or to just trying to sell you something or get more views.

If your trapping same areas year after year and not running into coyotes your struggling to catch your probably not seeing the whole picture in my opinion. Like Boones point about trapping LA your eventually going to have some coyotes there that are as wise as those in SD sheep country because coyotes are coyotes.

I've got a good enough population of coyotes here I can catch coyotes at a decent enough catch rate compared to a lot of other trappers catch rates on about any set and any attraction BUT when I start using better lures/ baits/urine and methods that catch the more cautious coyotes my catch rate goes up particularly if I stay in the same areas the whole time I'm trapping and same places year to year. Now if I was just completely dedicated to putting up numbers here in KS it would be one set, one lure/bait and catching the easy ones and moving to a new locations every week and would put up sick numbers if I had the time and want to to hit it hard.

… in remake after female in late January

… the ranch manager said he was not catchable

… walked on his wrist

Think that coyote is giving you the NUMBER ONE sign.

Did you ever see its tracks and wonder WTH?