Re: Acorns - red and white oaks
[Re: BernieB.]
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08/08/24 01:02 PM
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white oak acorns germinate right away, no need for stratification. Red oaks don't germinate till after a winter.
Red oak acorns are not as palatable till the following spring, thats why white oaks are targeted right away in the fall and red oak acorns are eaten in spring.
white oaks bear a heavy crop about every ten years, its a strategy for insuring some will survive.
Last edited by Dirty D; 08/08/24 01:05 PM.
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Re: Acorns - red and white oaks
[Re: BernieB.]
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08/08/24 04:12 PM
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Critters find White Oaks sweet tasting, and the Red's are bitter from more tannic acid, and Red's only drop mast every other year.
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Re: Acorns - red and white oaks
[Re: Gone Trappin.]
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08/08/24 09:25 PM
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so the individual acorns take 2 years to produce. let’s say the flowers pollinated for a group of acorns in spring 2022 won’t produce and drop acorns till the summer/fall of 2023, but the ones pollinated in 2021 will drop in 2022 when the others are being pollinated. i don’t know why this is but i do know that red oaks have giant acorns and that size could contribute to the extended growth. So not all red oaks have giant acorns. Water oaks have small acorns and willow oaks have tiny acorns, both are red oaks and take two years to develop. Bur Oaks on the other hand have huge acorns and are white oaks and only take one year.
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Re: Acorns - red and white oaks
[Re: OKforester]
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08/08/24 10:34 PM
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so the individual acorns take 2 years to produce. let’s say the flowers pollinated for a group of acorns in spring 2022 won’t produce and drop acorns till the summer/fall of 2023, but the ones pollinated in 2021 will drop in 2022 when the others are being pollinated. i don’t know why this is but i do know that red oaks have giant acorns and that size could contribute to the extended growth. So not all red oaks have giant acorns. Water oaks have small acorns and willow oaks have tiny acorns, both are red oaks and take two years to develop. Bur Oaks on the other hand have huge acorns and are white oaks and only take one year. The burr oaks we have here do not produce large acorns they are about the size of the northern red oaks. There are probably multiple kinds of bur oaks.
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Re: Acorns - red and white oaks
[Re: BernieB.]
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08/09/24 07:40 AM
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Good morning, all! Being a newbie, I have never posted here, but decided a word of caution on planting sawtooth oaks might be appropriate. Perhaps everyone is aware of Sawtooth's ability to mature quickly and produce bumper crops of acorns. They seem to be a great choice when doing wildlife plantings. However, many people are apparently not aware that they are a non-native specie with a tendency to become invasive in some areas, crowding out less aggressive native oaks. Sawtooths are of Asian origin(Japan, Korea, China) and are currently included on numerous state invasive specie lists-Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Maryland, South Carolina, Virginia are all concerned about continued planting.
There is a long list of plants brought to North America from other continents because they might serve someone's purpose here. Good intentions, bad ideas! Often times once they are here and get a foothold in the wild, we have no way to stop their spread. It's a choice we all can make when selecting planting stock. Or.....we can just do what serves us the time and to heck with what effect it has on the woodlands of our grandchildren.
Sorry about the sermon.
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Re: Acorns - red and white oaks
[Re: BernieB.]
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08/09/24 08:14 AM
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CS thanks for the update on the sawtooth oaks and welcome to the T-man tribe.......jk
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Re: Acorns - red and white oaks
[Re: CoolSets]
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08/09/24 08:18 AM
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Good morning, all! Being a newbie, I have never posted here, but decided a word of caution on planting sawtooth oaks might be appropriate. Perhaps everyone is aware of Sawtooth's ability to mature quickly and produce bumper crops of acorns. They seem to be a great choice when doing wildlife plantings. However, many people are apparently not aware that they are a non-native specie with a tendency to become invasive in some areas, crowding out less aggressive native oaks. Sawtooths are of Asian origin(Japan, Korea, China) and are currently included on numerous state invasive specie lists-Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Maryland, South Carolina, Virginia are all concerned about continued planting.
There is a long list of plants brought to North America from other continents because they might serve someone's purpose here. Good intentions, bad ideas! Often times once they are here and get a foothold in the wild, we have no way to stop their spread. It's a choice we all can make when selecting planting stock. Or.....we can just do what serves us the time and to heck with what effect it has on the woodlands of our grandchildren.
Sorry about the sermon. Thanks for that info.
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