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Flower Farming fails #8191785
08/08/24 09:45 PM
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I’ve always been a gardener and want to have my own greenhouse/horticulture business or something in the floral industry. this spring and summer i had my first attempt at starting this buisness and failed miserably. I decided to take this learned information and use it for next year, but i know many of you have gardens so i figured i would share some things i learned:

Do not use straw as a mulch, it will germinate and grow, causing more problems than needed, instead use wood chips as they also promote better soil health, or use cover crops planted in the fall. Daisies make good weed cover and can be planted in the fall. they also look nice as flowers

Use caution using landscape fabric because not only does it leach harmful chemicals into the soils but if you use cheaper stuff, enough light can still get through to cause weeds from underneath to grow

broad forking is a good alternative to tilling to still maintain soil health. I would till only if needed in clay rich soil.

as you can tell by my previous points, I advocate for no-till! my flower bed i did no till on was weedy its first year but now with 2 years past that i’ve had barley any weed problems as im not turning weed seeds into the dirt and only sowing what i want to grow.

put a fan on seedlings when started indoors and provide good sunlight to avoid them getting leggy.

there are 100 uses for cardboard in the garden, my favorite is weed block.

overwatering will not only hurt your plants short term but can cause root rot which will stunt them long term

seed starting trays are great but can stunt plants if done improperly, take them out ASAP, there is no reason to have them in seed starting trays after the last frost.

some plants need the cold to grow, do your research on each plant as some need the cold to harden off while other need the cold for their roots.

never store bulbs in a hard container where temperature fluctuates

small blooms are usually caused from overcrowding

short lasting annuals are better to be planted in 2 week successions

lastly, the biggest one that hurt me the most was the proper use of heat mats. heat mats are used for germination, after which they should be removed, while yes they will make your plants grow faster, the plants won’t grow better. the heat being applied to growing roots will prevent the plant from growing a long stem initially and you will have short plants blooming close to the ground (not ideal for bouquets). This has something to do with the maturing as it hardens off, which it can’t do because it’s too warm and stressed. stems and fruit will be noticeably smaller, thinner, and shorter. instead provide ambient heat to keep from frosting and periods of cold, never freezing but never hot. grow lights will be more helpful than temperature will.

i have information about each individual flower and plant too if interested. i grow most annuals so im sure i can help or try to help if needed.

just growing plants is way different than trying to start plants early and prepare them to be sold. there is more emphasis on producing and producing for longer when running a business than just having a garden. That being said it was a good learning experience and i’m ready for next year.

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8191854
08/08/24 10:51 PM
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You give a lot of good advice.

Did you raise flowers for sale to florists and at farmers markets, or you pick?

Keith

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8191944
08/09/24 05:20 AM
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My wife is giving such a try. I will be forwarding the info. Thanks for the post!


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Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8191952
08/09/24 05:46 AM
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Interesting stuff.
I use a lot of straw as mulch and have never had much problem with it. I think it depends on how "clean" is.

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8191958
08/09/24 06:03 AM
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No-till has become very popular in the last several years with many benefits. Unfortunately, I grew up turning dirt and still love the smell of fresh tilled soil.....gonna turn dirt till i cant climb on the tractor anymore smile
Sounds like youll make it work next time....good luck

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8191961
08/09/24 06:09 AM
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Very interesting and I have always had the interest in owning a greenhouse myself. I would sell vegie and flowers only be open till late spring etc.

My wife works a little for a greenhouse and knows the owner well. The things you mentioned are what she has encountered over the years. She is very successful in her business and nets just at 100K a year and works 7 months.


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Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: KeithC] #8191962
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i was going to sell to florists but due to my late start because of short stems i decided not to because i didn’t want to be seen as unreliable with crappy flowers and ruin any chances of future business. I also want to be at farmers markets but i got way to busy with my actual job by the time i had good blooms so taht didn’t happen this year either. Next year i plan to do both, i just didn’t this year because i had such a late start I called it a wash pretty early and used it as a learning year anyways. I just have a field of flowers now.

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8191963
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No problem and make sure to remind her that the morning is her friend, i tried planting after work… HOT WEATHER SUCKS

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8191965
08/09/24 06:13 AM
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Also, use tools as best you can, sowing 1000’s of seeds and seedlings by hand is misery. I had a drill with an auger on it then would drop the seeds in and it still took a long time

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: snowy] #8191967
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wow i wish i could make 100k in 7 months. Those 7 months are awful busy i would reckon

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: KeithC] #8192019
08/09/24 07:42 AM
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My neighbors grow tons of flowers that they sell and they used wood chips 2 years ago and majorly stunted the flowers as the chips asbosrbed all the available nitrogen. I don't know all the specifics so it's something you may want to look into more.

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8192086
08/09/24 10:25 AM
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Sounds like the first skunk i ever trapped learned a lot and fast


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Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8192149
08/09/24 12:19 PM
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My wife tinkers with flowers as well and makes arrangements for her class customers and sells a few. But like me she has to many irons in the fire and things get away from her. Needless to say flower are a huge thing around our place. Depending on what it is I like wood chips a lot for weed control especially around things like roses. Keep the post coming.

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8192150
08/09/24 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
My neighbors grow tons of flowers that they sell and they used wood chips 2 years ago and majorly stunted the flowers as the chips asbosrbed all the available nitrogen. I don't know all the specifics so it's something you may want to look into more.



This happens. They pull the nitrogen when they break down. I put composted cow poo down before the chips this year.

Re: Flower Farming fails [Re: Gone Trappin.] #8192151
08/09/24 12:23 PM
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We have 260 peonies in our front yard. They were supposed be a sell to a wholesale buyer type business. Wholesale buyers in the area all went out of business. Couple dozen other growers in the area. Now we are all competing against each other! Every spring I wish I could just take round up to them!

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