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Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: foxkidd44] #8193492
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I may (will not) be in the front row but I'm guessing I'll find out in the near future.
I'm Purdy good on keeping the 10 commandments in check.

I don't need ANYONE to talk to me and try to decipher what was written in scripture.

They read the same words I read.


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Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Foxpaw] #8193493
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
I'm curious, and being serious about this question.
Does the Bible actually say that when we die, that we go to heaven?


I guess the first thing would be to establish, is there a Heaven? How big is it?

15 hundred miles long and 216 feet high
Rev: 21: 16 ,22

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Wolfdog91] #8193503
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Pretty sure Enoch got a tour of heaven


Is it your thought that since Enoch was taken alive to Heaven that he will be one of the two witnesses who will be brought back to witness in Rev 11:6 and since he never died the first time ( flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God) will be killed and resurrected in verses 11 and 12?

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15 hundred miles long and 216 feet high
Rev: 21: 16 ,22



Is that Heaven or just The New Jerusalem which is only part of Heaven?

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Foxpaw] #8193514
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
15 hundred miles long and 216 feet high
Rev: 21: 16 ,22



Is that Heaven or just The New Jerusalem which is only part of Heaven?

Yes and I believe it comes down out of heaven to the earth.

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: foxkidd44] #8193525
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I believe after the final throne judgment is when the saved recieve there heavenly bodies.
The meek shall inherit the earth. A new Heaven and a new earth.
Thy Kindom come Thy will be done. In earth as in heaven. This is the inhabitants of the kingdom.
New Jerusalem, the heavenly Jerusalem, with 12 foundations and 12 gates representing all of Israel shall be saved, Jew and Gentile. Those that are circumcised of the heart not of the flesh.

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: foxkidd44] #8193635
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Eternity is a dang long sentence.
Makes me sometimes think about the Asian religions' concept of nirvana, meaning beeing released from the cycle of suffering.
Perhaps heaven is to rest in peace.

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Foxpaw] #8193639
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Pretty sure Enoch got a tour of heaven


Is it your thought that since Enoch was taken alive to Heaven that he will be one of the two witnesses who will be brought back to witness in Rev 11:6 and since he never died the first time ( flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God) will be killed and resurrected in verses 11 and 12?

Ummm....what

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Wolfdog91] #8193692
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Foxpaw,
Maybe an explanation of the theory of Enoch being taken bodily.

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: foxkidd44] #8193745
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I belive that Elijah and Moses will be the two witness in the last days.

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Guss] #8193750
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Originally Posted by Guss
I belive that Elijah and Moses will be the two witness in the last days.

They were both sure there at the transfiguration on the mount.

Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Foxpaw] #8193933
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
15 hundred miles long and 216 feet high
Rev: 21: 16 ,22



Is that Heaven or just The New Jerusalem which is only part of Heaven?



The city, the gates will always be open but no evil/sin can enter, sounds as though we may can come and go as we please.


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1500 miles long by 216 miles high seems awfully small for eternity for the amount of people that have been on the Earth thus far.

Maybe not a lot of people will be in Heaven.


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Everybody on the planet standing in a 2 sqft space will fit in Jacksonville Florida, each would have a half acre in the whole state of Texas.


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Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8193968
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Gotta be a great place. Life here for me is good and if Heaven is better I dan deal with that too.

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Re: Your thoughts about heaven [Re: Yes sir] #8193970
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
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If you are judged you are not saved. Only those not found in the book will be judged and then thrown into the firey pits!

Didn't earlier post on this thread u didn't believe in life after deatg6

I didn't say I did believe in life after death. I just stated maybe there isn't anything. That doesn't mean I'm not a believer in christ. I am. When my heart was stopping and starting I had this sensation and peacefulness that is undiscribable. Is there life after death? We're all gonna find out but I'm with ya, I want to be prepared just in case there is!

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The Bible describes Heaven as a square 1,500 miles on all sides so a squar has 4 sides 1500 hundred miles x4 = 600,000 miles!.

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1 Thessalonians 4 13-17 talks about those that sleep in Christ.
Also that they shall rise 1st and be caught up to Jesus. Then the living.
When this happens is unknown exept by the father according to scripture.
What happens next is one of the most studied and talked about subjects.
Depending on your eschatological beliefs.
I believe all of the traditional Christian beliefs lean towards a conscious existence with our creator for sure after the final throne judgment.
And that we will receive an incorruptible body.

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Man, some really fantastic responses here.
I’ve never read the book of Enoch.. pretty much because none of the Bible’s Ive ever owned never had it.
Supposedly it’s been left out because no other books in the Bible can support it ( from what I understand, and there are those wayyyyyy smarter than me) .
I do believe heaven and hades are very real..
Ive said to a few folks that I’d rather be on the floor.. eating crumbs at the feet of JESUS under the mighty banquet table.. than being in the eternal darkness.
As mentioned earlier,,,, John Burke… who did a podcast… also has a book called “ imagine heaven “.. I’m about midway through the book and it’s really fascinating.
Some of the stuff these folks describe are really interesting… there’s folks who have had really great experiences and there are those who went south…and they describe it as being extremely horrifying.

I really do recommend it…
My dad’s last words just seconds before he passed was “ I’m ready “ he was definitely talking to someone,,, someone that no one else in the room saw.
I guess I’d like heaven to be a little place in the backside of heaven,,, with a little cabin,,, a crystal clear lake full of fish aching to be caught…. All the hounds that I have had been lucky enough to have,,, and all my friends and family who I’ve missed or will be following me afterwards joining me.


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I think it's gonna be great and we will be with Jesus in the new heaven and the new earth.

And i will dwell in the house of the LORD forever!

That's enough for me. I don't get too spun up about some of the lesser details.


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