Re: Coyote Denning
[Re: Slipknot]
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08/13/24 11:24 AM
08/13/24 11:24 AM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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Marion Kansas
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All I know is they hide them well. We have lots of coyotes and I spent lots of time checking cattle horse back, fixing fence, farming and scouting for deer and I'm always looking for coyote sign and I haven't found very many active dens. Coyotes know what areas humans frequent and areas they don't and they seem to pick areas humans are least likely to visit. I've observed pairs of coyotes and figured I was probably within a 1/4 mile of a den and might be able to find it if I tried. When I have found an active den they move the pups right away as stated above. I think they will move them even if u get too close but don't actually find the den.
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Re: Coyote Denning
[Re: Slipknot]
#8197124
08/16/24 04:16 PM
08/16/24 04:16 PM
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Joined: Dec 2014
E central Il
Golf ball
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E central Il
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Years ago when we still had red fox it was fairly easy to find they’er dens . We have had coyotes since the very late 70’s and I’ve only found 3 active dens in the last 40 years. The biggest thing I’ve noticed is when your dogs get too close to a fox den you probably won’t know it , when they get too close to a coyote den , your going to know it. The other difference is the trash. Fox dens will have bones and pieces of ground hog hide scattered around. Coyotes will have human trash, paper plates ,tin cans, plastic bottles, license plates, John Graham told me he found a range finder once. I’m guessing these are toys brought home by the parents. Years ago we found one of the old old spice bottles , you know , glass covered in white plastic. I picked it up and carried it up to the truck and laid it down next to the corner of the catch pen. A few months latter hunting the same pasture I picked up another and did the same thing and noticed that the first one was gone . Over the next few year we played this game many times. This is one reason we should not be afraid of toy sets, lol .
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Re: Coyote Denning
[Re: Golf ball]
#8197193
08/16/24 06:20 PM
08/16/24 06:20 PM
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Joined: Sep 2021
Southeast Louisiana
Slipknot
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Southeast Louisiana
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Years ago when we still had red fox it was fairly easy to find they’er dens . We have had coyotes since the very late 70’s and I’ve only found 3 active dens in the last 40 years. The biggest thing I’ve noticed is when your dogs get too close to a fox den you probably won’t know it , when they get too close to a coyote den , your going to know it. The other difference is the trash. Fox dens will have bones and pieces of ground hog hide scattered around. Coyotes will have human trash, paper plates ,tin cans, plastic bottles, license plates, John Graham told me he found a range finder once. I’m guessing these are toys brought home by the parents. Years ago we found one of the old old spice bottles , you know , glass covered in white plastic. I picked it up and carried it up to the truck and laid it down next to the corner of the catch pen. A few months latter hunting the same pasture I picked up another and did the same thing and noticed that the first one was gone . Over the next few year we played this game many times. This is one reason we should not be afraid of toy sets, lol . That is interesting info Golf Ball.
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Re: Coyote Denning
[Re: Wanna Be]
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08/17/24 02:19 PM
08/17/24 02:19 PM
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IL
NorthwesternYote
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IL
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There’s a den somewhere inside the red circle…the outlined red is our dove field. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2024/08/full-51940-226712-img_9522.jpeg) Edit: Oh, looking at the picture again, it seems that's a dashed line (boundary line?), not a river. At first glance, it looked like there is a river running through the circled area. I've heard in the past that coyotes like to den near a source of water (which makes sense to me), but this will be my first season of trapping so I don't speak from experience. For those of you who have managed to find dens, how far were they from a source of water?
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Re: Coyote Denning
[Re: Wanna Be]
#8197944
08/17/24 06:55 PM
08/17/24 06:55 PM
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Joined: Jan 2020
Aliceville, Kansas 45
Yukon John
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They must hide them well…I know where they light up from and have walked every inch of that drain and can’t find it. We drop dogs off in the field to the north when running hogs and those coyotes get all riled up when the dogs come through, but I’ve yet to find the den. I can set up and call them out from either the North, East, or West and eventually kill them or what I think is “all” of them, but still have never located the den. You kinda answered a question I have. I was wondering if dogs were good locators of dens, not that I intend to do it, just curious?
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Re: Coyote Denning
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#8198300
08/18/24 09:10 AM
08/18/24 09:10 AM
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Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
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SW Georgia
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The dogs may not find the dens but if they get close enough, the coyotes will find the dogs. Years ago I recorded a couple of hounds treeing a coon one night and then put it on a loop. What I found was that it did not work without the presence of at least one dog. At that time I didn’t have a hound that I wanted messing with coyotes, so it didn’t work. In those days we had enough trouble with hounds and coyotes while coon hunting , we didn’t want to force the issue. These dogs will ignore anything that isn’t a hog. I’ve watched deer get up in front of them and between them and they pay no attention to them. I’m guessing the coyotes just bark aggressively, but there’s generally 4-5 dogs released and they just may not want to tangle with them. I’ve seen those dogs bay and actually hold a hog and not even need the catch dog so that could be a reason as well. Can only remember once of a coyote sounding off on a coon dog. Now that could’ve been a different story because in that instance he only had one dog out.
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Re: Coyote Denning
[Re: Slipknot]
#8198335
08/18/24 10:04 AM
08/18/24 10:04 AM
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Joined: Dec 2014
E central Il
Golf ball
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E central Il
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Most all the trouble I’ve had with coyotes was back in the 80’s and 90’s, but it happened on a regular basis. I’ve seen what I assume was a dog coyote clean as many as 4 grown hounds off a tree during a competition hunt. At other times I’ve seen what I assume was a female harass a dog or dogs while tracking a coon . One night my Nt.Ch. female got caught by a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) coyote in the edge of a fresh planted corn field. I ran out to them and used my dog lead to whip that coyote off my gyp , she followed us all the way back to the truck at 20 yards or less , only backing up when I turned and went after her. By far this was the most aggressive coyote I ever saw until guys started filming decoy dogs. Without a doubt if you like hunting with dogs this would be an absolute adrenaline filled way to improve your habitats by removing a multitude of coyotes in one set up .
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