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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: TC1]
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DelawareRob
 
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We can agree to disagree and both be ok.  I respect your thoughts, but still don’t buy the lead bs lock stock and barrel.  I don’t see skeet and trap courses loaded with dead and dying birds or mammals and the concentration of lead there is massive….  And much more easily accessed.  My .02.  Back to work fellas. I believe it’s more about them eating it from the critters they consume.  
 
  
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: KeithC]
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 08/14/24 02:57 PM
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https:// Copper may be less toxic than lead for people. We need some copper in our systems to live. It is more toxic for many other species. Keith When I was working screw machines, I had an allergic skin reaction to raw copper.  
 
  
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Rat_Pack]
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Did anyone really believe that a ban on lead would end with waterfowl? After nearly 40 years, I had hoped so lol  
 
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: WhiteCliffs]
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 08/14/24 05:28 PM
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses  
 
  
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses  Some of the "posters" are ill informed. True fact that lead poisoning has effected mostly Waterfowl and Raptors because of non retrieved birds due to poor shooting ability or no effort to find them. If hunters LEARNED to shoot steel properly, there possibly wouldn't be such losses. It is a "learning curve" from shooting lead but can be achieved with a little practice. Consistent kills at 40+ yds using 2 3/4 > 3" steel is quite common.  
 
  
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."  Dr. Phillip Snow 
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: DelawareRob]
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 08/14/24 06:14 PM
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  I have seen studies of lead poisoning.  They fed penned ducks grain with lead shot mixed in, the ducks had more than one piece of shot in their gizzard and lived.  They kept feeding grain and shot mix and guess what, it killed them.   I have shot hundreds of ducks a year and never seen lead shot in a gizzard. Yes I save them.  I think farming chemicals is way harder on wildlife and fish. 
 
  
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: tlguy]
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 08/14/24 07:54 PM
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A few dead eagles isn't a good enough reason to ban all lead ammo. Birds of prey probably kill more ducks and upland birds than lead poisoning.  No, bad hunters and fishermen contribute to more wildlife suffrage and death in most species than any other predator. :-(  
 
  
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
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A few dead eagles isn't a good enough reason to ban all lead ammo. Birds of prey probably kill more ducks and upland birds than lead poisoning.  No, bad hunters and fishermen contribute to more wildlife suffrage and death in most species than any other predator. :-( Automobiles contribute to way more wildlife suffrage and death than hunters ever come close to.  
 
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses   Because  it's well know 800fps plus lead kills things.  
 
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
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 08/14/24 09:48 PM
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A few dead eagles isn't a good enough reason to ban all lead ammo. Birds of prey probably kill more ducks and upland birds than lead poisoning.  No, bad hunters and fishermen contribute to more wildlife suffrage and death in most species than any other predator. :-( This is a made up lie.  If it is indeed fact, please site sources…This is the e BS that we all dislike..  
 
  
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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 08/14/24 11:31 PM
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses  Is there a shortage of eagles? I even see them here occasionally. As far as other raptors, they are everywhere. Can't hardly drive more than a few miles without seeing one in a tree around here.  
 
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: DelawareRob]
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 Is there a shortage of eagles    Absolutely not  
 
  
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: MJM]
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 08/15/24 06:33 AM
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  I have seen studies of lead poisoning.  They fed penned ducks grain with lead shot mixed in, the ducks had more than one piece of shot in their gizzard and lived.  They kept feeding grain and shot mix and guess what, it killed them.   I have shot hundreds of ducks a year and never seen lead shot in a gizzard. Yes I save them.  I think farming chemicals is way harder on wildlife and fish.      X2  
 
  
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