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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: TC1]
#8195944
08/14/24 03:29 PM
08/14/24 03:29 PM
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East of the Mason-Dixon Line
DelawareRob
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East of the Mason-Dixon Line
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We can agree to disagree and both be ok. I respect your thoughts, but still don’t buy the lead bs lock stock and barrel. I don’t see skeet and trap courses loaded with dead and dying birds or mammals and the concentration of lead there is massive…. And much more easily accessed. My .02. Back to work fellas. I believe it’s more about them eating it from the critters they consume.
Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: KeithC]
#8195957
08/14/24 03:57 PM
08/14/24 03:57 PM
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St. Louis Co, Mo
BigBob
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St. Louis Co, Mo
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https:// Copper may be less toxic than lead for people. We need some copper in our systems to live. It is more toxic for many other species. Keith When I was working screw machines, I had an allergic skin reaction to raw copper.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Rat_Pack]
#8196020
08/14/24 06:02 PM
08/14/24 06:02 PM
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Sumner, Mo.
claycreech
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Sumner, Mo.
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Did anyone really believe that a ban on lead would end with waterfowl? After nearly 40 years, I had hoped so lol
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: WhiteCliffs]
#8196032
08/14/24 06:28 PM
08/14/24 06:28 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
Wolfdog91
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Amite county Mississippi
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses
YouTube expert
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8196038
08/14/24 06:42 PM
08/14/24 06:42 PM
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Western Shore Delaware
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Western Shore Delaware
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses Some of the "posters" are ill informed. True fact that lead poisoning has effected mostly Waterfowl and Raptors because of non retrieved birds due to poor shooting ability or no effort to find them. If hunters LEARNED to shoot steel properly, there possibly wouldn't be such losses. It is a "learning curve" from shooting lead but can be achieved with a little practice. Consistent kills at 40+ yds using 2 3/4 > 3" steel is quite common.
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: DelawareRob]
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08/14/24 07:14 PM
08/14/24 07:14 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
ND
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ND
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I have seen studies of lead poisoning. They fed penned ducks grain with lead shot mixed in, the ducks had more than one piece of shot in their gizzard and lived. They kept feeding grain and shot mix and guess what, it killed them. I have shot hundreds of ducks a year and never seen lead shot in a gizzard. Yes I save them. I think farming chemicals is way harder on wildlife and fish.
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: tlguy]
#8196116
08/14/24 08:54 PM
08/14/24 08:54 PM
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Western Shore Delaware
SJA
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Western Shore Delaware
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A few dead eagles isn't a good enough reason to ban all lead ammo. Birds of prey probably kill more ducks and upland birds than lead poisoning. No, bad hunters and fishermen contribute to more wildlife suffrage and death in most species than any other predator. :-(
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: SJA]
#8196159
08/14/24 09:45 PM
08/14/24 09:45 PM
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Joined: Feb 2015
Iowa
trapdog1
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Iowa
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A few dead eagles isn't a good enough reason to ban all lead ammo. Birds of prey probably kill more ducks and upland birds than lead poisoning. No, bad hunters and fishermen contribute to more wildlife suffrage and death in most species than any other predator. :-( Automobiles contribute to way more wildlife suffrage and death than hunters ever come close to.
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8196163
08/14/24 09:48 PM
08/14/24 09:48 PM
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Indiana
Providence Farm
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Indiana
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses Because it's well know 800fps plus lead kills things.
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: SJA]
#8196199
08/14/24 10:48 PM
08/14/24 10:48 PM
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SD
TC1
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SD
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A few dead eagles isn't a good enough reason to ban all lead ammo. Birds of prey probably kill more ducks and upland birds than lead poisoning. No, bad hunters and fishermen contribute to more wildlife suffrage and death in most species than any other predator. :-( This is a made up lie. If it is indeed fact, please site sources…This is the e BS that we all dislike..
Thread snitch non reporter #2
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: Wolfdog91]
#8196243
08/15/24 12:31 AM
08/15/24 12:31 AM
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alabama
BandB
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alabama
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I have recovered a number of dead bald eagles that the necropsy showed cause of death to be lead poisoning Love how when these type of posts happen people will just brush over these responses Is there a shortage of eagles? I even see them here occasionally. As far as other raptors, they are everywhere. Can't hardly drive more than a few miles without seeing one in a tree around here.
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: DelawareRob]
#8196307
08/15/24 06:36 AM
08/15/24 06:36 AM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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williamsburg ks
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Is there a shortage of eagles Absolutely not
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: North American Non-Lead Partnership
[Re: MJM]
#8196333
08/15/24 07:33 AM
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USA MN
Snowpa
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USA MN
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I have seen studies of lead poisoning. They fed penned ducks grain with lead shot mixed in, the ducks had more than one piece of shot in their gizzard and lived. They kept feeding grain and shot mix and guess what, it killed them. I have shot hundreds of ducks a year and never seen lead shot in a gizzard. Yes I save them. I think farming chemicals is way harder on wildlife and fish. X2
Never Confuse Stupid With Crazy
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