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Re: Shame on Houston and Texas [Re: Chancey] #8200829
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Keith, if there is not a single original idea in Christianity, then how can we account for the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Christ's gospel is the foundation of Christianity.


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Originally Posted by mnsota
Truth.

Now there is a five letter word that remains obscure in most peoples vernacular .
Moreso absent leaning in one direction.


Truth is when the Word and the deed become one.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
Keith, if there is not a single original idea in Christianity, then how can we account for the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Christ's gospel is the foundation of Christianity.


Please point to any single theme that is unique to Christianity. I believe that is truly impossible. There's nothing of import that Jesus did that doesn't come from an earlier religion.

Do you know 16 other gods were hung on a tree to save people before Jesus was?

Dionysus magically turned water into wine, long before Jesus was born.

Ra, Horus and other Gods were born of virgins.

Keith

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Give me an example of Pagan religions doing what Jesus did.


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I'm just gonna say it cause it needs saying. Keith, please fact check me.

As far as I can tell throughout biblical history and also the history of civilization, most were pagans. Whether it be the Jews, the Mayans, the Incans, the Hindus, etc........

All pagan religions when in control lead to three things.......and those are sexual immorality, human sacrifice, and child sacrifice.

I don't want to go there, so I will call out their BS.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
Give me an example of Pagan religions doing what Jesus did.


What is something significant that you think Jesus did?

Keith

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Give me an example of Pagan religions doing what Jesus did.
Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Chancey
Keith, if there is not a single original idea in Christianity, then how can we account for the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Christ's gospel is the foundation of Christianity.


Please point to any single theme that is unique to Christianity. I believe that is truly impossible. There's nothing of import that Jesus did that doesn't come from an earlier religion.

Do you know 16 other gods were hung on a tree to save people before Jesus was?

Dionysus magically turned water into wine, long before Jesus was born.

Ra, Horus and other Gods were born of virgins.

Keith


How many of them died for your sins?


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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Chancey
Give me an example of Pagan religions doing what Jesus did.


What is something significant that you think Jesus did?

Keith


Well, died to save the world


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looswgoose you are so worried about what I would do withthe statue I would take that yellow fruitthat I CAN'T SPELL AND HANG ALL OVER IT.are you happy now. how easy no more worries/ PROVIDENCE Ia really give up on youyou can never see anyone else's pointwe should all just work 200hours a day like you and thats the ened of it cause you say so bnight.

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Originally Posted by Chancey
I'm just gonna say it cause it needs saying. Keith, please fact check me.

As far as I can tell throughout biblical history and also the history of civilization, most were pagans. Whether it be the Jews, the Mayans, the Incans, the Hindus, etc........

All pagan religions when in control lead to three things.......and those are sexual immorality, human sacrifice, and child sacrifice.

I don't want to go there, so I will call out their BS.


I can't think of a single one of the myriad of Proto-Indo-European religions, that I've heard of, that more modern religions are based on, that practiced sexual immortality or human sacrifice of humans of any age. Name one that did.

I think that you sadly have only learned information about other religions, that the people who run your religion want you to know, to control you.

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Too many people do not understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ did not come down here to form some sort of "religion" , He came down here to save mankind from their own wicked sins.

Jesus did not die on the cross so that we can criticize muslims, jews, hindus, catholics, or protestants. He came to say HE was the Truth, and the Life, and the Way; and HE proved it by miracles and HIS resurrection.

He was also a MAN, with blood. Blood matters. He had the only pure blood that could sanctify the sin of the world.

You have to ask yourself......How can both a Holy and Just God, sanctify the sin and wickedness of man.?

The only answer is to give His only Son as payment for those sins. A loving God.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
Well, died to save the world


At least 16 others gods did that while being hung on a tree, long before Jesus did. Most return to life in 3 days or in a multiple of 3, often 9 days. Many, maybe most religions have their god dying for the people.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Chancey
I'm just gonna say it cause it needs saying. Keith, please fact check me.

As far as I can tell throughout biblical history and also the history of civilization, most were pagans. Whether it be the Jews, the Mayans, the Incans, the Hindus, etc........

All pagan religions when in control lead to three things.......and those are sexual immorality, human sacrifice, and child sacrifice.

I don't want to go there, so I will call out their BS.


I can't think of a single one of the myriad of Proto-Indo-European religions, that I've heard of, that more modern religions are based on, that practiced sexual immortality or human sacrifice of humans of any age. Name one that did.

I think that you sadly have only learned information about other religions, that the people who run your religion want you to know, to control you.

Keith


Keith, I'm talking about pagans.

The Mayans? The Incans? The Olmecs? The Jews?, The Babylonians? The Indonesian tribes?, etc.

Everyone of the them committed those atrocities.

You'll have to enlighten me on the Proto-Indo-European religions. I've never heard that term before.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
Too many people do not understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ did not come down here to form some sort of "religion" , He came down here to save mankind from their own wicked sins.

Jesus did not die on the cross so that we can criticize muslims, jews, hindus, catholics, or protestants. He came to say HE was the Truth, and the Life, and the Way; and HE proved it by miracles and HIS resurrection.

He was also a MAN, with blood. Blood matters. He had the only pure blood that could sanctify the sin of the world.

You have to ask yourself......How can both a Holy and Just God, sanctify the sin and wickedness of man.?

The only answer is to give His only Son as payment for those sins. A loving God.


The Norse god Baldur interceded for men with the Gods, to get the gods to forgive their wrongs, just like Jesus later did.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Chancey
Well, died to save the world


At least 16 others gods did that while being hung on a tree, long before Jesus did. Most return to life in 3 days or in a multiple of 3, often 9 days. Many, maybe most religions have their god dying for the people.

Keith


Well, if that is true, then I want to read the book that you are reading cause I never heard that in my life, and then I want to counter it with the Word of God.

You see, I can't discredit you, cause I have no idea what the heck you are even talking about.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
Well, if that is true, then I want to read the book that you are reading cause I never heard that in my life, and then I want to counter it with the Word of God.

You see, I can't discredit you, cause I have no idea what the heck you are even talking about.


There's more different religions that have existed and that still exist than you and I can study in our lifetimes. There are some readily found Cliff Note versions of more than a few. Translations of many original texts are now readily available on line.

Here's some very general information

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Sixteen_Crucified_Saviors

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Originally Posted by Chancey
I don't think we should have steeples on churches. I don't think we should celebrate Christ's birthday near the winter solstice (as He was probably born in the fall), and I dang sure don't like the easter bunny.

Bunch of pagan crap!



How about Christmas trees? It was easier to convert the pagans this way is my take on why this was done.

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Originally Posted by Chancey
Too many people do not understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ did not come down here to form some sort of "religion" , He came down here to save mankind from their own wicked sins.

Jesus did not die on the cross so that we can criticize muslims, jews, hindus, catholics, or protestants. He came to say HE was the Truth, and the Life, and the Way; and HE proved it by miracles and HIS resurrection.

He was also a MAN, with blood. Blood matters. He had the only pure blood that could sanctify the sin of the world.

You have to ask yourself......How can both a Holy and Just God, sanctify the sin and wickedness of man.?

The only answer is to give His only Son as payment for those sins. A loving God.



Chancey a few personal things I always wrestle with. Does God make mistakes? Automatically we say no. So why create the deceiver, why knowingly allow him into the garden. Part of me always thinks it must be to enjoy the drama and suffering and its a sick joke. Walk through ba children's cancer hospital and tell me you dont question like this. But wait that can't be he knows all and is all. Time has no place or hold on him the beginning and the end. At the end of the day it's beyond this hill Billy's comprehension.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Chancey
I don't think we should have steeples on churches. I don't think we should celebrate Christ's birthday near the winter solstice (as He was probably born in the fall), and I dang sure don't like the easter bunny.

Bunch of pagan crap!



How about Christmas trees? It was easier to convert the pagans this way is my take on why this was done.

Or monkey statues?
(Sorry, couldn't' help it.)

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