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Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox #8201661
08/23/24 07:35 AM
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One of the most beautiful pelts and a joy to put up is the red fox (and all its color variations). For taxidermy, they're still bringing good money. To maximize your returns, learn to skin for the taxidermy market.


This is a typical cross fox from interior Alaska.
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This one's a rather light-colored cross fox from Idaho.
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This is a typical red fox color from east-central Idaho.
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Although we caught many "cherry" reds in Alaska, this was a good color in central Idaho; not too good.
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What colors are you catching?


Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201664
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The bottom one is what we catch around my home in North Central WI. 45 years ago that was our predator now we have very few around and I release any I catch. Absolutely beautiful.

Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201696
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Originally Posted by Gulo

What colors are you catching?


some are light-colored here, but very pretty and well-furred. Elsewhere in the forest-steppe zone they tend to be more grayish-brownish. This particular one was so nice that even the tannery people admired it, and they see thousands of them. Big male (some of the marten in the picture are also very big, it's the Altai subspecies).
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I think I've posted this one already. Not my catch, but I claimed it. Someone just wanted to catch some bunnies and handling a rabies vector was not in his plans.
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My good mycological comrade Dmitriy Ageev is working in the Sikhote-Alinskiy Nature Reserve right now and photographed this one a couple of days ago. I thought I'd post it, because you are familiar with the location:

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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201744
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Love the red fox colours. They are among my favorite to draw. [Linked Image]
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As usual Sharon, fantastic!


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Great pictures and paintings! The only reds I ever catch are basically in town or a big feed yard.


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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201794
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Typical big male

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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201831
08/23/24 01:41 PM
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My favorite animal to trap, put up, or just watch in natural habitat.


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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201853
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Very cool video Tatiana!


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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201870
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Love to see them jump like that, thank you, Tatiana.

And thank you, Jack, and Hoss. I always wait to get an assignment from my editors to do fox.

Someday, I'd love to do one of those Mongolian flatheads...those neat so different looking foxes high on the Himalayan plateau . I call them Flatheads grin

Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201893
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Sharon -

Sorry I don't have better pictures. I saw some corsac foxes (at a distance, going like mad) and took lots of Przewalski's Horse pictures (none too good also). I thought you may like. The corsac foxes were tiny (cat-sized) and were killed by rampant rabies. Hustai Park in Mongolia has the only wild populations of Przewalski's horses, which is the only truly wild horse in the world. Your name of corsac foxes (flatheads) is very fitting.


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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8201914
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What great adventures you've had. Thank you for these pics too. Those early horses are all head length, like a Jack Russel Terrier. The cave paintings so well mirrored those horses, too.

Here are a few shots of Flatheads I found on the internet. And the native with his eagle has a cape of Flathead fur . With as small as they are that cape took some catching many foxes !

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Those are some weird looking foxes.


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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Gulo] #8202096
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In 2000 my family moved from Nome to Unalakleet. Improved my snaring skill there. Mostly with lynx, but also wolverine and fox. 2003 moved back to Nome. Realized that year that snares would work real well around Nome. 4 wheeler or snogo busting thru brush or grass made trails the fox would follow. Western Alaska has a lot of fox and they are big and well furred. Hooked up thru taxidermy.net with a taxidermist in Michigan. He bought the fox I caught and sold mounts on ebay. Learned to dorsal skin. Initially left the skull in, lower legs in, frozen and shipped express mail to Michigan, Skulls added weight so soon skinned out the head too. Hides with feet still in were frozen and shipped in boxes of 10 or more. For those who remember family trapper, he taught me to sell lynx the same way. Made a lot of extra money over a few years selling frozen dorsal skinned hides to taxidermists.
The 2008 increase in oil prices and resulting recession brought that all to an end.
Here's a few pics:
[Linked Image] this little 340 snogo busted thru a lot of willow thickets right around Nome where I would set snares.
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Nome version of the white 17 snare pole set:
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Re: Photo Phriday 149 - Red fox [Re: Sharon] #8202109
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Originally Posted by Sharon
Love to see them jump like that, thank you, Tatiana.

And thank you, Jack, and Hoss. I always wait to get an assignment from my editors to do fox.

Someday, I'd love to do one of those Mongolian flatheads...those neat so different looking foxes high on the Himalayan plateau . I call them Flatheads grin



Sharon, I think those flatheads are actually Tibetan foxes (Vulpes ferrilata), from very high elevations, but for some reason they're usually called Mongolian foxes in the Internet smile In most of Mongolia, it's just corsacs (Vulpes corsac). Mongolia is 550 miles to the south from here, and our nature is similar to some parts of Mongolia. We also have corsac foxes, but I've never trapped them because I'm rarely out in the steppes. They sometimes come close to human dwelling and I see some roadkilled ones occasionally. I salvaged one a couple of years ago and had it tanned, and its fur is very soft and really pretty, prettier than red fox fur in a way. It appears gray and almost bluish from a distance, but in reality it has deep reddish-brown underfur and white-ticked guard hair. Probably a challenge to draw! Here it is compared to two other common local steppe species, the forest-steppe groundhog and the steppe polecat.

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Here's a link to a video with a very rare encounter with all three species interacting. Hopefully the link works.


https://vk.com/video-142733154_456244685

I think the eagle guy's hat is made of mostly of red fox feet, the Khanty also use fox feet (and sable feet) to make beautiful patchworked elements, but not hats, collars usually.

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Tatiana -

Thanks much (spaceba bolshoi) for the education. Your posts are always valued and educational!


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Tatiana,

What a great video. What were the chances of that to happen right where it could be videoed ?

I wish there were more close up videos of those Flatheads.

I really appreciate your input on the Falconer's hat. I wondered what that fur was. So, I suppose reds also occupy the same territory as Flatheads ? Or, of course, there is always trade among countries. I love that contrast of colours in his hat.

Thank you too, for the close up of that fox fur. And your description. I couldnt see that detail from the photos alone. I love that colour combo. Usually, underfur is grayish , in many species. The dark tones are on the top. This, however, is unique. How I would try that , is to put down the light blueish tones on paper first, then go over the top carefully, with dark red/brown , in the places where the fur parts , lesser on the smooth surfaces, and the most where the fur is seen straight on by the viewer . Time consuming, but worthwhile.

Any other videos you find, please toss them my way !

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Thanks much (spaceba bolshoi) for the education. Your posts are always valued and educational!


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Tatiana -

Thanks much (spaceba bolshoi) for the education. Your posts are always valued and educational!


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Ah, the rare Ballerina fox ...I hear they only dance in full moonlight. So videos of them are rare... grin

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