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Trucking is going broke all over #8202181
08/24/24 08:07 AM
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danny clifton Offline OP
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Used trucks are cheap and not selling. Companies closing and brokers too, rates are down. Cheap cheap loads are getting hauled. I have seen this before. A real good indicator that economy is slowing. Trucks move everything. When it starts going south the rest of the country does too.

Last edited by danny clifton; 08/24/24 08:08 AM.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202185
08/24/24 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Used trucks are cheap and not selling. Companies closing and brokers too, rates are down. Cheap cheap loads are getting hauled. I have seen this before. A real good indicator that economy is slowing. Trucks move everything. When it starts going south the rest of the country does too.

I've noticed this week the local economy has become more competitive, people are getting to bids and doing jobs almost the same day. I'm still booked out a month but I expect to not work as much this winter.

Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202187
08/24/24 08:16 AM
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My dad retired back just before Christmas and his truck is still sitting beside my garage. His primary problem is that his truck has an expensive Thermoking add-on and the banks arent willing to honor that upgrade as part of the price so loans arent gettting approved. Originally asking 45 now its down to 35k

Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202207
08/24/24 08:57 AM
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Its a good time buy a used truck if you write a check. Pretty iffy if you need loan.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202218
08/24/24 09:12 AM
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You'd think that regardless of the price of s truck an owner-op that actually works will pull in easily six figures in income would be an easy loan to write.

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Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202221
08/24/24 09:27 AM
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Tough to make six figures when rates are so cheap.

Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202222
08/24/24 09:28 AM
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Yep. We’ve been in a recession for 2 years. Things will continue to get tight. John Deere sales were down 11% last time I heard


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Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202228
08/24/24 09:39 AM
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6 figures gross if its closer to 100 than 200, which right now is going to be the case, does not leave much in your pocket.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202234
08/24/24 09:47 AM
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Don't forget electronic logs are now mandatory. Everyone thinks the reg is reasonable except those of us that operated for decades without them. Sleeping for three hours while waiting to load does not take time off the 14 hour rule. Sleeping 3-4 hours to dodge rush traffic same thing. So driver must spend 4 hours driving through Chicago instead of sleeping 3-4 and doing it an hour and a half. Trust me me when I say its bad right now.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202235
08/24/24 09:48 AM
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22 year old kid driver that was in here this week told me he is making 130 a year driving for someone else . And he is home everyday.

Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202242
08/24/24 09:58 AM
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Speed limit is 75 on the interstate here. Going to a job yesterday I came up on a company truck governed at 65. I just stayed back about 100 yards as I knew we were coming to a construction zone. 45 MPH speed limit. Right lane closed and a giton ramp in the middle of it coming from a loves fuel station. So when we got to the sign I hollered at him on the two way to come over I was not going to pass. Another bonehead with no two way or maybe an Iranian I don't know but he stayed in the right lane all the way to the barricade of flashing arrows then jerked the wheel into the left lane, never slowing down in spite of the potentially dangerous on ramp with big trucks trying to accelerate. These idiots are the norm now not the exception. Racing the clock because of electronic logs.

Last edited by danny clifton; 08/24/24 10:01 AM.

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Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202244
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gross. not take home. or he is lying


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202255
08/24/24 10:25 AM
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Who checks electronic logs? DOTs? I am sure folks are already lying on them somehow.....more regulations means honest people are hindered and those not honest will find a way around it.
I wish some of the Ukranians and Russians around me would go broke.....hundreds of truckers around Sedalia who have chopped up tractor trailers all over here building half million dollar houses on 3 acre lots and ruining farms....they have been the most significant push of land prices around these counties for over 10 years. About all of them drive trucks and their kids dont even finish school many times and just start driving.

Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202256
08/24/24 10:38 AM
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They are getting interest free loans and subsides that your kids don't qualify for.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202258
08/24/24 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Used trucks are cheap and not selling. Companies closing and brokers too, rates are down. Cheap cheap loads are getting hauled. I have seen this before. A real good indicator that economy is slowing. Trucks move everything. When it starts going south the rest of the country does too.

If you dont like what they want to pay you,,,dont haul for them.


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Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202262
08/24/24 10:50 AM
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Danny I know some great guys and even whole families who haul cattle and i have been worried for them since the Biden recession was kicked off. If you run accross Kenny Livingston from Abilene or Pete Oaks from Horton- know that those guys were as meaningful in shaping me as a young hand as any family member could have been.


�What�s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.�
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Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202263
08/24/24 10:52 AM
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National Carriers used to be "the elite fleet but last I knew there were only about half of them that hauled fast could speaka da englie.


�What�s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.�
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202265
08/24/24 10:55 AM
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only the very well to do folks are doing well.

when I was growing up there was a solid 'middle class' and the mom's stayed at home for the kids.

now the government has raised the kids (for many years) to be woke and ya'll will wonder why we will have a first lady potus who is a commie.


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Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202268
08/24/24 11:02 AM
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Not much "Union" trucking any more so,,,who do you blame it on now? grin


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Re: Trucking is going broke all over [Re: danny clifton] #8202273
08/24/24 11:15 AM
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Unions companies went under during good economic times. They could not compete.

I am just trying to point out that our economy is suffering. Symptoms always start in transportation.


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