And I don’t like that guy so I’m gonna try and make sure he gets another bite of the crap sandwich and I hope he loses his guns.

So....just show my government-issued permission slip to carry a gun when the government agents come to pat me down without probable cause, and be on my way? Oh boy....

Why is it you never-Trumpers automatically assume that anytime someone points out how much better Trump is on different issues than the other candidate that we are worshiping him and will bow down and kiss his feet?

Nothing could be further from the truth, at least in my case. I personally don’t like the guy, I think he’s a blowhard, a New York elitist, and his views on many subjects don’t align with my own. However, I am completely capable of separating my personal opinions on the guy and recognizing the good he did for this country during his first term. He may well be the best president this country has had in my lifetime. That doesn’t mean I worship him.

I really want to know why you would make that assumption.

I know why Blain County does it, he clearly has a severe case of TDS. Folks like him don’t think clearly. A perfect example is him commenting “Bravo” above. He can’t help himself, he just has to get a dig in on Trump and anybody that supports him in any way he can and whenever he can.

Is it the same situation with you?

Literally on the first page of thins thread, you told me to just vote for harris. You say that you disagree with him on some issues and that you don't worship him, and even seem to agree that he's soft on the 2a, yet when I talk about how he's soft on the 2a, your response is to tell me to just vote Harris if I don't like him. That's why.

I agree. It is a sad state of affairs that much of this country ....and maybe much of the world, believes that life is Manichean when in fact it is mimetic.

Just because candidate X tells lies to your face does not mean that candidate Y does not do the same thing.


I have not seen or heard the interview that you have referred to but I don't doubt Trump said those things. Nor do I doubt that the comments are not presented in context. And Finally.......I have zero faith in Trump's understanding of the law..................but SCOTUS pretty much addresses the 4th amendment issue in Terry v Ohio. We may not always like what comes out of SCOTUS but ,.......as conservatives........we, or at least I, have to respect the process that got us to that point. The alternative is frightening.

Frankly, I am more concerned today with the ongoing abuse of the first amendment by the Biden-Harris gang than I am by Trump's position on stop & frisk.

Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-69): Lyndon Johnson or LBJ was the 36th president of the United States of America and started his term after JFK was assassinated in 1963. He helped with Medicare and Medicaid. Read more about Lyndon B. Johnson.
Richard Nixon (1969-74): Richard Nixon was the 37th president of the United States of America. Though he passed many important and necessary changes he is most known for the Watergate Scandal. Read more about Richard Nixon.
Gerald Ford (1974-77)
James Carter (1977-81)
Ronald Reagan (1981-89): Ronald Reagan was a fairly well-known actor before he ran and was elected for the President of the United States of America two terms in a row. Read more about Ronald Reagan.
George H.W. Bush (1989-93): George H. W. Bush was the 41st president of the United States and a Republican. During his presidency the Soviet Union dissolved, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait and Noriega lost dictatorship of Panama. Read more about George H.W. Bush.
William J. Clinton (1993-2001): Bill Clinton was the 42nd president of the United States of America and then served two terms. His wife, Hillary Clinton also served as very important political figure. Read more about Bill Clinton.
George W. Bush (2001-09)
Barack Obama (2009-2017)
Donald J. Trump (2017-2021)
Joe Biden (2021–present)

Trump is second on my list, but that is not saying much.

I didn't tell you to, I said, "I think you should." It was a suggestion. I suggested it because you seem troubled because you are not sure where Trump stands on 2A. If you are looking for clearly stated opinions on that issue you need look no further then Harris. She has repeatedly made her opinions on gun control very clear. There can be no doubt where she stands.

I also suggested voting for her because I believe a vote for a third-party candidate is a wasted vote and I want everybody's vote to count for something. Of course, being from a red state, I guess your third-party vote doesn't mean anything anyhow.

I still don't understand how suggesting you vote for Harris translates to me worshiping Trump?

The primary reason I voted for Trump the first time around was his appointment of SCOTUS justices. The hundreds of other federal judges he appointed was icing on the cake.

It seems like every week or so I hear of another important decision favorable to the 2A made by a Trump-appointed judge.

Can you folks imagine the sad state of the 2A had Clinton had that same opportunity?

I like the last sentence of his 2024 campaign ad:

"And remember, a vote for me is a totally wasted vote."

I believe the next President will get 1, if not two appointments to the SCOTUS. these could be conservatives retiring also which could swing it back to the liberals should Harris get in.

lol

"Vermin" , for those wondering.



That would be a boot he wears for a hat.

I agree
There's a rabbit hole I'd like to go down with you concerning this later on if you're game?
Smoking some ribs right now.

Wondering if the guy, who is clearly better, although far from perfect, on the 2a, has changed his mind on wanting to violate the constitution by guns away without due process, means I should just vote for the democrat? Strange. Nowhere did I say I wanted to vote for whatever candidate is clearest on their 2a position, despite whatever that position may be, which is what you're suggesting I should do. I'm not sure what gave you that idea.

There may have been a bit of sarcasm.

Emotional people "need" to illicit emotional responses from others, ie; the seemingly senseless posts by some. Those people typically are immune to sarcasm.

Sure....I can give you the Georgia law from a retired officer's perspective...but not the Pennsylvania law.

I see. Instead of discussing a candidate's 2a strengths and weaknesses reasonably, or just ignoring the conversation if you don't like it, you respond with a sarcastic suggestion to vote for the democrat. Makes sense.