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Roasted pigeon #8205989
08/29/24 08:16 PM
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Farmer friend has issues with pigeons in his barns and grain stores. What is a good way to live trap them to use for other purposes?

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A BIG cage trap with the afore mentioned grain in it. Be sure to clean up as much of the spillage as you can so they will enter the trap. Your gonna need a place to keep the catch too, unless you clean and freeze them quick.


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We used to hold a fishing net against a broken wall fan that are along the walls of the barn. The pigeons would fly out and we’d catch them.


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Re: Roasted pigeon [Re: trapdoc] #8206009
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Wait till dark. If you can get to where they roost. Head lamp and net. Catch all you want

Re: Roasted pigeon [Re: trapdoc] #8206010
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I used to trap hundreds of feral pigeons a week to sell, mostly for dog training.

I would first make a wire box, with no bottom 4' wide by 6' long by 10" tall. Attach a piece of wire mesh, on the inside that cuts that box in half. For your trap door entrance ways, cut holes in the side wire mesh, 6" wide. Put 1 hole on the 4' side and 1' hole on each of the 6' sides centered from the wire mesh that divides the trap in half and one hole in the center of the divider. On both sides of all the entrance ways, attach a piece of 6" wire mesh, going from the outside in and into the closed off area. Block off the inside end with a piece of wire. Cut a hole in the wire used to block the ends 5" tall by 4" wide. Hang doors over those holes that are 5 inches wide, by just about a 1/4" shorter than 5". Bend the edges of the wire in, so they are somewhat pokey. Cup the door slightly, so that it curls towards the entrance way. Cut out some of the horizontal wires, between the vertical wires. Don't make any holes large enough for a pigeon to push through.

On top, cut a couple of holes, that will just fit your arm. Cover them with a couple of doors you can securely latch close. Snap clips work well for this. File and duct tape over any sharp edges, so you don't gouge your arms getting pigeons out.

Rusty old looking wire mesh works better than bright shiny wire to the traps. 1" by "2" is a good size mesh to use, but other sizes do work.

Place the trap on a flat surface, preferably off the ground, in an area where lots of pigeons will see it and bait it with whole corn. Put a bowl of water in the inside compartment. In hot, dry weather, the water helps lure pigeons in as well as the corn. It also keeps the pigeons from dehydrating. On top of the trap place some bricks, rocks or cinder blocks to keep the pigeons from getting out when they flush.

When you empty the traps of pigeons, leave at 2 birds in to help lure in others.


My traps were basically a large, short, wire mesh box, without a bottom. Some pigeons hesitate to step.on wire mesh. Enough so, in side by side tests, I took the bottoms off all my traps. The big compartment, with a trap going in from the main trap, helps retain the pigeons. Once pigeons want to get out, they try to manipulate the doors to get out. It's easier for them to go through the door to the compartment, so they typically do. If they get back out that door into the compartment, they usually go back in, because it's easier than manipulating an outside door. The pigeons aren't very bright, but they are not stupid either.

Making recesses going into the trap and compartment, makes it easier for the pigeons to find the door. The first traps I made, long ago, just had doors that were flush with the sides. Pigeons had harder times finding the doors. With recessed doors, I usually caught pigeons the first day.

Once you start catching a few pigeons, catches get rapidly better. Pigeons are attracted to the other pigeons they see in the traps.

The closer you can set to the visible flock, the sooner you will start catching pigeons. In some pigeon dense areas, I kept traps out all year, except in bad snow and ice. Light snow, that covers food sources, makes the traps very productive, if you keep the snow shoveled out and the trap baited.

There is a huge demand for cheap pigeons. I had a huge number of good contacts and still have quite a few.

Occasionally raccoons and Cooper's hawks would kill or injure the pigeons in my traps.

I mostly trapped gas stations. After a woman drove into my ladder, I started parking my car or truck, so that I could prop my ladder against it. The metal edge of most gas station roofs is smooth and sharp. I've had strong winds blow my ladder over. Once I fell and sliced my stomach open on the edge, when the ladder fell. Most roofs had nothing for tie offs. Putting a cinder block on the roof to tie off to, makes it safer.

Keith

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Originally Posted by stinkypete
Wait till dark. If you can get to where they roost. Head lamp and net. Catch all you want

Yep.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Roasted pigeon [Re: KeithC] #8206060
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Keith is there a size of wire that you had best results with? Does it matter how far off the ground the box is placed?

Thanks!
Rick

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Rick, you're welcome. I liked 1" by 2". The bigger the holes, the less trap shy the pigeons act.

You can even trap them on the ground, but cats and other predators are worse on them there. I trapped flat roofs, because they already landed there on their own.

The going rate for feral birds in Texas and Florida is $8.00 each and they'll take thousands. I sell small numbers here for $10.00 each.

Keith

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Keith I am about ready for construction. Do you cut the trap door entrance ways at 10" tall? Are the doors free hanging pieces of the mesh that the pigeons push to enter? I am always appreciative of advice from those with real experience!

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Originally Posted by stinkypete
Wait till dark. If you can get to where they roost. Head lamp and net. Catch all you want

Did much the same but with a powerful flashlight. Get them to fly and shine it in there face. Light temporarily blinds them and the fall out of the sky. Simply pick them up and bag them. Had a blast doing this as kids and the farmers really appreciated it.


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Re: Roasted pigeon [Re: stinkypete] #8206352
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
Wait till dark. If you can get to where they roost. Head lamp and net. Catch all you want

this is what we did as kids


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Re: Roasted pigeon [Re: trapdoc] #8206422
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Originally Posted by trapdoc
Keith I am about ready for construction. Do you cut the trap door entrance ways at 10" tall? Are the doors free hanging pieces of the mesh that the pigeons push to enter? I am always appreciative of advice from those with real experience!


The hole for the door should be 5" tall by 4" wide. You want just enough space for the pigeons to.duck and go in. Cut as much wire out of the door as possible, leaving all the ends pointing sharply, back into the trap. The door should swing in with the lightest amount of pressure and then swing completely closed. Having the doors recessed in makes it hard for the pigeons to push them open from the side. The door should look like an obvious way in.

Keith

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Got 109 out of a grain bin one nite bout 30 years ago.
A dog trainer gave me 5$ apiece.
Most $$ive ever made in the shortest amount of time. Was fun also.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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