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observations from my road trip #8206607 08/30/24 07:39 PM 08/30/24 07:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Oregon H H2ORat OP trapper
H2ORat OP trapper H Joined: Jul 2009 Oregon	I drove my daughter to indiana recently. It has been several years since I have left this state so some of the changes surprised me. BTW - Thank you to the t-man people that helped in choosing routes and other info, it was greatly appreciated. My first revelation was that as soon as we left oregon the U.S. flag miraculously started to appear everywhere. People on the road were also more curteous and didn't drive like maniacs ( until indianapolis - that was just like portland). It seemed like the roads in the states with the highest gas taxes were where the worst roads were (sorry illinois - you couldn't pay me enough to live there) -- still rural illinois was better than 75% of the west side of oregon. There was much less trash on the roadsides -- I don't know why this surprised me, but it was noticed. Not nearly the homeless problems -- seemed worse in bloomington but that is to be expected as it is a college town and the police presence (with cops that were allowed to do their jobs} was a nice change. This trip made me realize how far my state has fallen. Nebraska, Wyoming, Mo (sorry still cant spell it), Idaho all remind me of what my state was like in the 80s (and wish it was like today). Just some observations of an uneventful trip (the best kind). touring the cummins plant (where my daughter will be working ) was nice as well. Last one out of the house and I will miss her but I think it will be a good thing.

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206645 08/30/24 08:34 PM 08/30/24 08:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 West Virginia,age 49 cathryn bvr-takr-upr
cathryn bvr-takr-upr Joined: Dec 2006 West Virginia,age 49	Im.glad you had a good trip. We are heading in Indiana Sunday. I hope our trip goes as well as yours. IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206647 08/30/24 08:39 PM 08/30/24 08:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2020 Aliceville, Kansas 45 Yukon John trapper
Yukon John trapper Joined: Jan 2020 Aliceville, Kansas 45	Originally Posted by H2ORat I drove my daughter to indiana recently. It has been several years since I have left this state so some of the changes surprised me. BTW - Thank you to the t-man people that helped in choosing routes and other info, it was greatly appreciated. My first revelation was that as soon as we left oregon the U.S. flag miraculously started to appear everywhere. People on the road were also more curteous and didn't drive like maniacs ( until indianapolis - that was just like portland). It seemed like the roads in the states with the highest gas taxes were where the worst roads were (sorry illinois - you couldn't pay me enough to live there) -- still rural illinois was better than 75% of the west side of oregon. There was much less trash on the roadsides -- I don't know why this surprised me, but it was noticed. Not nearly the homeless problems -- seemed worse in bloomington but that is to be expected as it is a college town and the police presence (with cops that were allowed to do their jobs} was a nice change. This trip made me realize how far my state has fallen. Nebraska, Wyoming, Mo (sorry still cant spell it), Idaho all remind me of what my state was like in the 80s (and wish it was like today). Just some observations of an uneventful trip (the best kind). touring the cummins plant (where my daughter will be working ) was nice as well. Last one out of the house and I will miss her but I think it will be a good thing. Don't tell anyone, we don't want that (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) here! Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206691 08/30/24 09:30 PM 08/30/24 09:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 western mn B bucksnbears trapper
bucksnbears trapper B Joined: Oct 2009 western mn	I've been to alot of states. My quaretee is: I will NEVER go east of Mn again. Mn,, ND, SD, WY, Mt is about it for what time I have left. swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206723 08/30/24 09:59 PM 08/30/24 09:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks	Maine is pretty nice Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: bucksnbears] #8206846 08/31/24 01:10 AM 08/31/24 01:10 AM
Joined: May 2011 Oakland, MS yotetrapper30 trapper
yotetrapper30 trapper Joined: May 2011 Oakland, MS	Originally Posted by bucksnbears I've been to alot of states. My quaretee is: I will NEVER go east of Mn again. Mn,, ND, SD, WY, Mt is about it for what time I have left. So, someone from a BLUE state is gonna really gonna get on here and talk smack about at least TEN states on the east of MS river that are SOLID red? And you wonder why so many people like me don't care for you. It's because we can only handle a set limit of stupidity and you continuously surpass that limit. Proudly banned from the NTA.

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206848 08/31/24 01:26 AM 08/31/24 01:26 AM
Joined: Sep 2016 MB J Jurassic Park trapper
Jurassic Park trapper J Joined: Sep 2016 MB	Why is it so common for Americans to move so far away from where they grew up? I’ve noticed this for a while. Cold as ice! Clique non-member

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: Jurassic Park] #8206886 08/31/24 07:19 AM 08/31/24 07:19 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Iowa	Originally Posted by Jurassic Park Why is it so common for Americans to move so far away from where they grew up? I’ve noticed this for a while. I don't know how common it is JP, but most of the people I know that have moved to other areas have done so for employment opportunities.

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206907 08/31/24 07:54 AM 08/31/24 07:54 AM
Joined: Oct 2020 IL I ILcooner trapper
ILcooner trapper I Joined: Oct 2020 IL	Indiana is a nice place to live, Bloomington is surrounded by some beautiful hills and lots of public land hunting, fishing, rec opportunities. Hope she enjoys her time there! Indy is not that bad compared to many big cites. Downtown is safe Last edited by ILcooner; 08/31/24 07:56 AM.

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206909 08/31/24 07:55 AM 08/31/24 07:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks	I moved a state away in 81 for two reasons. Economy was very bad. Very little work in rural CO. I got by trapping hunting fishing and gardening. Had a baby. Pretty quick I knew I needed money. Another reason was I saw the political handwriting on the wall when the county I lived in adopted zoning. Even in the slow economy ranches were being busted up into 20-30 acre lots and Texans and especially Californians were retiring there. I moved, went right to work, and 6 years later was buying a home. All my kids and all but one grandkid are still here. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: yotetrapper30] #8206918 08/31/24 08:06 AM 08/31/24 08:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 western mn B bucksnbears trapper
bucksnbears trapper B Joined: Oct 2009 western mn	Originally Posted by yotetrapper30 Originally Posted by bucksnbears I've been to alot of states. My quaretee is: I will NEVER go east of Mn again. Mn,, ND, SD, WY, Mt is about it for what time I have left. "is gonna really gonna" It's because we can only handle a set limit of stupidity and you continuously surpass that limit. Lol Didn't realize I was " bashing" other states. And no, I don't wonder at all why you don't like me swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206920 08/31/24 08:09 AM 08/31/24 08:09 AM
Joined: Mar 2012 meadowview, Virginia E EdP trapper
EdP trapper E Joined: Mar 2012 meadowview, Virginia	We went on a road trip back in May that took us from southwest Va to LA. I-70 in eastern Co was the worst section of road by far in the 5000 miles we travelled. So absolutely miserable it made me ashamed as an American.

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: Jurassic Park] #8206927 08/31/24 08:26 AM 08/31/24 08:26 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Worthington, IN S Scott T trapper
Scott T trapper S Joined: Dec 2006 Worthington, IN	Glad that you had a good trip. Bloomington is probably the most liberal town in the state but still nice. We probably go there once a month to shop. Hope she enjoys her time here. Originally Posted by Jurassic Park Why is it so common for Americans to move so far away from where they grew up? I’ve noticed this for a while. I have a kid in Oklahoma and one in Tennessee. Looks like he needs another year;-)

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206930 08/31/24 08:39 AM 08/31/24 08:39 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks	EdP, next time go north at the border. Hwy 385 at Burlington. Go west on HWY 36. Come out at Byers on I70. Bout the same miles takes an extra hour. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: yotetrapper30] #8206943 08/31/24 08:55 AM 08/31/24 08:55 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM Blaine County trapper
Blaine County trapper Joined: Mar 2010 2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM	Originally Posted by yotetrapper30 Originally Posted by bucksnbears I've been to alot of states. My quaretee is: I will NEVER go east of Mn again. Mn,, ND, SD, WY, Mt is about it for what time I have left. So, someone from a BLUE state is gonna really gonna get on here and talk smack about at least TEN states on the east of MS river that are SOLID red? And you wonder why so many people like me don't care for you. It's because we can only handle a set limit of stupidity and you continuously surpass that limit. Meow. How did you read what he wrote as bashing other individual states? Are you really in online college? Calm down

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8206946 08/31/24 09:05 AM 08/31/24 09:05 AM
Joined: Oct 2023 OR W wws trapper
wws trapper W Joined: Oct 2023 OR	I have done many road trips from Oregon. Few thing we noticed , Oregon has a bottle bill, you pay 10 cents for pop and beer cans and can return them empty for your money back. Supposedly so they don’t end up on the roadside. When I travel to other states the roads are normally cleaner than in Oregon. The bums do pick them up though. Also Oregon being blue, pushes solar panels. We are almost the worst place for them Western Oregon at least and there is government money to be had but Florida and many sunny places we didn’t see as many ? Oregons homeless population is terrible, our government sucks and has too many handouts for them. Just a few things I noticed wws

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: Blaine County] #8206961 08/31/24 09:31 AM 08/31/24 09:31 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co. W walleyed trapper
walleyed trapper W Joined: Feb 2010 Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.	Originally Posted by Blaine County Originally Posted by yotetrapper30 So, someone from a BLUE state is gonna really gonna get on here and talk smack about at least TEN states on the east of MS river that are SOLID red? And you wonder why so many people like me don't care for you. It's because we can only handle a set limit of stupidity and you continuously surpass that limit. Meow. How did you read what he wrote as bashing other individual states? Are you really in online college? Calm down She's cornfused !!! She's a transplanted, refugee, New York Blue-Stater, imported Yankee who washed ashore in Mississippi !!! "Provisional/Interim" member of NYSTA "I Support Non-Resident Trapping"

Re: observations from my road trip [Re: H2ORat] #8207019 08/31/24 11:15 AM 08/31/24 11:15 AM
Joined: May 2011 Oakland, MS yotetrapper30 trapper
yotetrapper30 trapper Joined: May 2011 Oakland, MS	Yep walleyed, I got OUT of the blue state, lol. Proudly banned from the NTA.

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