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Re: Bees [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #8215901
09/14/24 09:48 PM
09/14/24 09:48 PM
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Oh, and you would have to register and pay an annual per hive count fee to do so.

But Alabama has always been an "honor system" state when it comes to enforcement of its more esoteric laws. Just ask the west Georgia nuc producers.

But the state added a snitch provision about a decade ago so ratting out your neighbor is profitable to the tune of half all accessed fines.


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Re: Bees [Re: BigBlackBirds] #8215903
09/14/24 09:49 PM
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Just getting into the bee keeping thing this year. Made 9 of the insulated Layens long hives that will hold up to 33 extra deep frames. I plan on using only local ferrel bees that I catch in swarm traps. Got a late start trying to trap them this year ( May- July) and caught 5 swarms. I just finished 20 swarm traps to put a hurting on them next year. Gonna see how they winter in the insulated hives this year. If they make it till next spring I plan on building 6-10 more long Langstroph hives that will hold 40 frames apiece.

Re: Bees [Re: BigBlackBirds] #8216203
09/15/24 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlackBirds
Hardest part of queen work down here is dealing with drone sources. With 100k colonies leaving almonds every spring and arriving here for the summer grind it gets tough to find spots where you arent getting some overlap with those pollination colonies. Id think its a little easier on that front up there. Not that many years ago only a handful of bigger outfits operated up there but I've heard that too has changed in recent years as things got saturated down here. Do you happen to know if the UP is still the big producer of birdsfoot trefoil seeds for US? Decades ago a beekeeper named Ray Buell, he was the largest guy in state at time, use to cross the bridge every summer to go to pollination for it. I thought out in the middle of UP but not really sure. Just remember him telling stories of going across the bridge and extracting trefoil honey which has a unique smell



I know it was grown in Minnesota,not familiar with it being grown here.


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Re: Bees [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #8216209
09/15/24 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
Just getting into the bee keeping thing this year. Made 9 of the insulated Layens long hives that will hold up to 33 extra deep frames. I plan on using only local ferrel bees that I catch in swarm traps. Got a late start trying to trap them this year ( May- July) and caught 5 swarms. I just finished 20 swarm traps to put a hurting on them next year. Gonna see how they winter in the insulated hives this year. If they make it till next spring I plan on building 6-10 more long Langstroph hives that will hold 40 frames apiece.


make sure they have enough food stores going unt winter and check mite count. treat and feed to get then heavy going into winter if needed

Also with swarms your getin the old queen. never know if she will make it through the winter. Re queeing may be beneficial.

keep up on hive inspections in spring. I have problems loosing queens in great looking hives every year when farmers start spray the fields. If you don't catch it you may end up with laying workers and other than combining them with a strong hive I just dump that hive and start over. I tried everything I heard about to correct it and finally just give up..

between splits and swarms you will likely end up with more bees than you want after you get the hang of it.

Re: Bees [Re: Providence Farm] #8216238
09/15/24 02:10 PM
09/15/24 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Also with swarms your getin the old queen. never know if she will make it through the winter. Re queeing may be beneficial.


JMO, late summer/fall is the time to requeen. I like a queen hatched post equinox because she is less likely to swarm than a spring queen in her second season.


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Re: Bees [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #8216265
09/15/24 02:49 PM
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Lots of studies also showing post equinox queens have much less issue with varroa

I should say - colonies with post equinox queens

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Re: Bees [Re: warrior] #8216290
09/15/24 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Also with swarms your getin the old queen. never know if she will make it through the winter. Re queeing may be beneficial.


JMO, late summer/fall is the time to requeen. I like a queen hatched post equinox because she is less likely to swarm than a spring queen in her second season.



I should have elaborated more I didn't but this is what I ment but I was not clear at all not saying a thing about timing. my mind was focused on geting ready for winter and over looked what I wrote could be taken as request when you catch the swarm in spring. thanks for pointing that out.

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