Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/15/24 11:35 PM
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40 acres is small .....they must have been on an adjacent property.....dogs don't read signs or gps....just saying
Prolly they should have gathered the dogs and left
No killum bear .....better luck next time
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: waggler]
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09/16/24 12:11 AM
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Hound dogs have a hard time reading signs, and they duck under fences without a second thought.
In timber country where I grew up, if it didn't have a fence or a tilled field it was fair-game for hunting. I think that custom originated from Scandivavian culture. Unless the hounds were carrying guns, the owners should have been able to read and ask permission.
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: jbyrd63]
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09/16/24 12:14 AM
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to bad you get in trouble If you deal with them like they deserve. Should be able to walk in their front door and shoot their Pets. No difference between the two to me. Difference is if you walk in someone’s front door carrying a gun Odds are some one will carry you out read what is there not what you think is there. That it's to bad you would get into trouble IF. Not that I will or would. people would be more respectful if this country had not gone so soft.
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: Ohio Wolverine]
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09/16/24 03:31 AM
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Before everyone became so sensitive , no one really cared if someone hunted on their property. Everyone got along, and often hunted each others property. I loved the 1950's and early 1960's , when no one cared if you hunted their property , as long as you didn't trash it! Then city people came out and thought it's free land, and do as you please, chop down the trees for fun. shoot the sap buckets because it's a target. Shoot the sheep because it's an animal. It was so much better back then , no one really cared until someone started to destroy everything through pure ignorance. Now everyone thinks , hey lets see if we can climb that hill with this ATV or 4 wheel drive truck . Hey no one is around just throw this can and our garbage in a pile here. Respect has gone out of our lives, because of people that have no idea about life outside their city lives. There are more stupid people now that don’t realize they are stupid.
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/16/24 03:57 AM
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There are a couple guide groups in your area that don't care, they even get trespassing tickets often and it doesn't seem to faze them, they also train heavy in your area. I also know a lot of local guides that wouldn't run without permission and several others that only run state land because it's getting tough to get permission. I would try to ask an adjacent landowner, preferably someone that's fulltime- they'll know every pickup truck and who it is, I would be polite and make it well known that you do not want hunters and dogs on your property. The risk you run is- if your family is planning to sit baits in upcoming years, you don't want your target bears run, if you have adjoining lands where it's allowed- hounds man can try to control the dogs, but the bear is unpredictable. You can post it and add gates to entrances as a deterrent, but nothing will say "No" better than you guys being there- it's a tough one.
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/16/24 04:08 AM
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A guy from PA bought the property next to me to hunt. I got to know his family and if I didn’t recognize a vehicle there I made an inquiry. I don’t understand the thought process to trespass. Do you just ride around and think this looks like a good place to hunt and go hunting? There is probably 4,000 acres of state land within a ten minute drive that can be hunted but I guess some folks see no trespassing signs as a dare. lol
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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09/16/24 04:16 AM
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A guy from PA bought the property next to me to hunt. I got to know his family and if I didn’t recognize a vehicle there I made an inquiry. I don’t understand the thought process to trespass. Do you just ride around and think this looks like a good place to hunt and go hunting? There is probably 4,000 acres of state land within a ten minute drive that can be hunted but I guess some folks see no trespassing signs as a dare. lol They ride around with the strike dog on the hood of the truck, attached to an eyebolt and a piece of indoor/outdoor carpet- when he lets loose- they dump the dogs. In winter, they drive the same roads after a snow and look for a fresh set of cat tracks- the same groups run cats and bears for the most part.
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/16/24 05:31 AM
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danny clifton
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I miss the days when this country was not so crowded that 40 acres was a land baron.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/16/24 05:38 AM
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danny clifton
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That is one of the reasons I no longer have hounds anymore for coon hunting. It is impossible now to release one around here without a good chance you will end up on somebody's deer lease or a 40 acre baron's property. Best reason IMO to stop all this immigration. We have plenty of people here now.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: Ohio Wolverine]
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09/16/24 06:15 AM
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Today I got a text from a fella that lives near our family forty in rusk county Wisconsin. Apparently some hound hunters treed and shot a bear on our marked property (without permission). It doesn't bother me that they killed the bear, it's that they did it on my family's property. Before everyone became so sensitive , no one really cared if someone hunted on their property. Everyone got along, and often hunted each others property. I loved the 1950's and early 1960's , when no one cared if you hunted their property , as long as you didn't trash it! Then city people came out and thought it's free land, and do as you please, chop down the trees for fun. shoot the sap buckets because it's a target. Shoot the sheep because it's an animal. It was so much better back then , no one really cared until someone started to destroy everything through pure ignorance. Now everyone thinks , hey lets see if we can climb that hill with this ATV or 4 wheel drive truck . Hey no one is around just throw this can and our garbage in a pile here. Respect has gone out of our lives, because of people that have no idea about life outside their city lives. That would still work except the deer hunters with dogs will have you arrested if you hunt on their lease. But it's OK if they hunt on your property.
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/16/24 06:16 AM
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Hounds do not understand property lines, but people should. They should have looked you up to see if it is ok to go on your land to take that bear. If at night, and probably was, they should wait until morning. that is how we did coon hunting long time ago for me......jk
Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. What's supposed to be ain't always is. Hopper Hunter
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/16/24 06:31 AM
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The penalties for trespass used to be more severe… just ask some of those mountain men who lost their hair in the Rockies!
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: chippewatrapper]
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09/16/24 06:52 AM
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Regardless of what the laws says for your state the courteous thing is to ask. Don't people have some sort of guilt just rooming around on others land? I have some of the problem and mostly people from one state. Not sure what their laws are there but it is interesting that 90% of the problems come from out of state hunters.
I guess I just don't understand people not asking regardless of the law. I catch a lot with cameras and turn them ovah to the law.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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Re: Trespassers
[Re: waggler]
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09/16/24 07:17 AM
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Hound dogs have a hard time reading signs, and they duck under fences without a second thought.
In timber country where I grew up, if it didn't have a fence or a tilled field it was fair-game for hunting. I think that custom originated from Scandivavian culture. The dogs didnt shoot the bear....the trespassers did. They could have fetched their dogs and left without killing the bear since it was private property. This business with dogs not reading is nonsense
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