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Re: Trespassers [Re: 330-Trapper] #8216947
09/16/24 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
The hunters should have left their Guns/bows off the property. gone in with leashes got their dogs. If they had no permission to hunt there

The law provides for dogs not knowing property lines but hunting where you have no permission just because you treed an animal. Is Still poaching


MN law provides that one can go onto land without permission to retrieve your dog(s) but can not carry a firearm and once you catch your dog(s) must evacuate the premises. Coyote hunters abuse this law as they send in dogs with tracking collars on property that is clearly marked. Then they send in someone without a firearm to go after their dogs never intending on catching them but to help flush out the coyote to the hunters who are parked on the road all around the sections. Not uncommon for them to shoot off the road across fields that they have no permission to hunt on. My biggest pet pev is one day I might catch a dog in a coyote snare on property I have permission to be on but in the end I will look like the bad guy since I caught their dog even though they where trespassing.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216948
09/16/24 10:46 AM
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BTW, going onto someones property without permission in order to retrieve your dogs is still trespass; just saying.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216952
09/16/24 10:55 AM
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It's so easy to know nowadays what land is private and what is public. No excuse for trespassing, including ignorance. Hunting dogs being on your land without your permission is trespassing and should be reported to the county sheriff for enforcement.

Wisconsin does not require any posting of private property. Not sure where the rumor about 2 signs per 40 came from.

Re: Trespassers [Re: walleyed] #8216953
09/16/24 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
So it’s the dog’s fault. lol


SO CHOOT DEM !!! laugh


I’ve tried, I just couldn’t pull the trigger on a dog because it has an irresponsible owner.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: 330-Trapper] #8216955
09/16/24 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
The hunters should have left their Guns/bows off the property. gone in with leashes got their dogs. If they had no permission to hunt there

The law provides for dogs not knowing property lines but hunting where you have no permission just because you treed an animal. Is Still poaching



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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216986
09/16/24 11:51 AM
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Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal. Hunters do not. If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife and you will not have a problem. The hunters should not have shot that bear without permission, agreed.

Re: Trespassers [Re: Leftlane] #8216991
09/16/24 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
LMBO @ 96 acre safety barrier. I'm guessing any rifle shot adjacent to your property would still have the capacity to kill or injure.

If you were trying to make a different point I missed it. I eventually git tired of reading paragraphs upon paragraphs that they become pointless.



I would suggest you work on your reading compression or just by pass it then. yet you feel compelled to make a post.

maybe this will sum it up for you. People are screwed up today and my family lives on our farm and is all over it as much as typical kids in their small fenced in back yard . You don't want stranger coming into your back yard where your kids are I don't want them in my yard with mine. Just happens my yard is a little bigger than most people's.

Not one singe thing was referring to a rifle shot or safety barrier for bullets. you dreamed that up on your own.

But now that you brought it up My boys have been hit with falling pellets from across the road in our back yard when feeding the chickens.



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Re: Trespassers [Re: waggler] #8216992
09/16/24 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by waggler
BTW, going onto someones property without permission in order to retrieve your dogs is still trespass; just saying.

Not in all states.

Re: Trespassers [Re: Diggerman] #8216996
09/16/24 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal. Hunters do not. If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife and you will not have a problem. The hunters should not have shot that bear without permission, agreed.



Maybe in your state. In mine doge are not a free range animal and are to be controlled. Game wardens and sheriffs have instructed me to shoot them if there is an issue.

Friend has had the same discussion with the CO in his hunting area of KY.

I won't shoot a dog unless it's causing issues. But killing my chickens, chasing my horses, and growling at my kids have all resulted in dead dogs. sometimes I had mad dog owners and tence moments. They were not expecting what they were told when they called the sheriff. The same deputy that told me to shoot them came out and gave them an education and flipped it to the liability they could have if I had pushed the chicken killing property loss or vet bills if my horses were hurt and medical if my kids were.

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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217011
09/16/24 12:22 PM
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Once when I was a kid a bunch of trespassers walked up to dad and I back in the woods and we hunted the rest of the day with them. Times sure have changed.

Re: Trespassers [Re: Diggerman] #8217019
09/16/24 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal. Hunters do not. If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife and you will not have a problem. The hunters should not have shot that bear without permission, agreed.

Hounds DO NOT have the "right" to be there as the wildlife. Where do you get that from?

Those hounds are an extension of the hunter (and property of that hunter) and are on the private land because of their owner's incompetence, intentions, and uncaring.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Diggerman] #8217059
09/16/24 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal. Hunters do not. If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife and you will not have a problem. The hunters should not have shot that bear without permission, agreed.

I guess they have the same right to clog up my traps. Trapping season overlaps deer season. I'm trapping my two pieces of property. I put up signs stating the area is being trapped. Signs help a little.

Re: Trespassers [Re: Diggerman] #8217069
09/16/24 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal. Hunters do not. If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife and you will not have a problem. The hunters should not have shot that bear without permission, agreed.


100% disagree with the first sentence.

Also, why is it my responsibility to build a fence to keep someone else's dogs outta my property?

Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217076
09/16/24 02:04 PM
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We hunt quite a bit in the public areas of North Central WI. We had looked at purchasing some acreage over the last 20-30 years and from what I read here I am glad we did not buy property.Ownership and especially absentee ownership sure seems to be not honored by a lot of users.

Bryce

Re: Trespassers [Re: bblwi] #8217084
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Originally Posted by bblwi
We hunt quite a bit in the public areas of North Central WI. We had looked at purchasing some acreage over the last 20-30 years and from what I read here I am glad we did not buy property.Ownership and especially absentee ownership sure seems to be not honored by a lot of users.

Bryce

Yeah...I'd stay away from buying any land near wide open public land. In most parts of the midwest and Eastern US....it's overhunted.

Now, tightly controlled public land with very few or no hunts is a different story....ie...next to a state park that isn't hunted.

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Re: Trespassers [Re: Diggerman] #8217089
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal.

If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife
and you will not have a problem.


You just can't fix this brand of ignorance !!! whistle


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217094
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I have found that trespassing hunters and dogs are not very fond of coyote snares and traps. Usually only takes one trip thru our property’s to see the results. I do not feel guilty about what they encounter or the outcomes BTW.. We do allow a few hunters to utilize some of our properties, but prior to them hunting for pheasants and such, I place disc plates over traps and close all my snares for the day/days. Everyone is happy in that scenario. It is not like these people and dogs are just out for a stroll and the dogs get away, in most all cases what happens is intentional, therefore no remorse or pity, only citations when they are caught..


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8217104
09/16/24 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Vinke
^^^^That was in the question,,,,,,LINES CLEARLY MARKED......
Sound like you never run dogs..^^^

You'd fit right in with some of the deer doggers down here in the South.

They couldn't care less if a landowner has planted food plots, maintained his roads in good condition, etc.

"Yall know them dogs can't read posted signs."

Well, here in Georgia...we had enough of that nonsense. Now the deer hound owner can be charged for allowing his hound to get on someone else's property.

That stopped most of that BS.


WA banned all dog hunting,,,,,then trapping with conventional equipment,,,, then spring bear……
Sound like you would fit in here


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Diggerman] #8217113
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal. Hunters do not. If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife and you will not have a problem. The hunters should not have shot that bear without permission, agreed.

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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217115
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Exactly, If you cant keep my bears off your property, you aint going to keep my dogs off either. Even if you are some liberal from upstate NY.

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