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How many lures? #8221192
09/22/24 07:57 PM
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How many different lures go in your trap bag when setting for coyotes? I usually have 6-8. Couple different baits.


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Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221200
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Honestly have no clue. Do have some that are a must and after a catch or two from a particular location or area I’ll change them up.

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221216
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Two or three, and that’s all I usually carry for coyotes. I carry two different baits too, sometimes a third.
Rarely use coyote gland lures. Had much better luck with this trio.

Beaver caster
Mink gland
Red Fox gland

Jim

Last edited by jabNE; 09/23/24 06:37 AM.

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Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221256
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More than I need. I'm not sure how many lures I have, but if I've got a lure bag that holds a dozen and it is usually full. But I will usually use half a dozen when setting and then maybe grab one or two of the others to put on a single set as a complete change up. I try and never use the same lure on more than one set when I make multiple sets in a location. And I almost always make multiple sets at a location unless it is a blind set where I don't want to do anything to alert the target animal.

I try not and be too repetitive even on different locations, thus the reason for so many lures, but I will be the first to say you don't need a dozen lures to catch a canine. But I don't know what they might have seen from other trappers or what they might be interested in today, so I try to give them a variety.

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221272
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Don’t forget Lenons weasel lure for a change up

Usually have two baits and about 7 lures and some kind of urine


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Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221450
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I'll use two to three baits and four to five lures. I'll keep track of what I use at each farm and then change things up the following year.


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Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221473
09/23/24 10:17 AM
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A trend I see is the guys that are professionals or catch big numbers for their areas tend to carry fewer number's of lures and baits.

Re: How many lures? [Re: Yes sir] #8221483
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
A trend I see is the guys that are professionals or catch big numbers for their areas tend to carry fewer number's of lures and baits.


I ponder this sometimes. I think, am I trying too diversify scents too much when the guys who really wear them out use the same thing over and over? Then I think, most of the guys doing that are probably covering so many miles and family groups of coyotes that they dont need to diversify. If you are setting traps on 1000 acres versus 100,000 acres then it seems (from my experience) that the coyotes can and do get habituated to smells and start ignoring sets. I think it also depends on if you are trapping a travel way where you are constantly getting an influx of new animals versus trapping a couple resident family groups in a relaticely small area.

Im still trying to hash out my thoughts on it, but in my area it sees that some diversity out produces using the same thing over and over when trapping the average sized properties that Im hitting. If every set is a new batch of coyotes I would be more inclined to punch the same set and smell in over and over.

Just my uneducated opinion though

To answer the OP question, I normally carry 2-3 baits, and probably 6 or 8 lures

Re: How many lures? [Re: Yes sir] #8221486
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
A trend I see is the guys that are professionals or catch big numbers for their areas tend to carry fewer number's of lures and baits.

I'm far from ever being called a professional but still try to keep things simple. What works great one year may not be so hot the next. First part of the season I'll carry a small selection until I figure out which work the best, then only use them. Later in the season I may switch to using more gland types.

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Re: How many lures? [Re: sportsman94] #8221502
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Originally Posted by sportsman94
Originally Posted by Yes sir
A trend I see is the guys that are professionals or catch big numbers for their areas tend to carry fewer number's of lures and baits.


I ponder this sometimes. I think, am I trying too diversify scents too much when the guys who really wear them out use the same thing over and over? Then I think, most of the guys doing that are probably covering so many miles and family groups of coyotes that they dont need to diversify. If you are setting traps on 1000 acres versus 100,000 acres then it seems (from my experience) that the coyotes can and do get habituated to smells and start ignoring sets. I think it also depends on if you are trapping a travel way where you are constantly getting an influx of new animals versus trapping a couple resident family groups in a relaticely small area.

Im still trying to hash out my thoughts on it, but in my area it sees that some diversity out produces using the same thing over and over when trapping the average sized properties that Im hitting. If every set is a new batch of coyotes I would be more inclined to punch the same set and smell in over and over.

Just my uneducated opinion though

To answer the OP question, I normally carry 2-3 baits, and probably 6 or 8 lures

I personally believe theirs several contributing factors to why the best coyote men tend to carry fewer baits and lures.

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221586
09/23/24 01:21 PM
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My experience was I just didn’t have very good luck with coyote gland lures around here for some reason. But had good and consistent luck with beaver castor, mink gland, and red fox gland.
I have no clue why but that’s been my experience. Wish I knew why.
And I get about same number of male and females, older and younger specimens, doesn’t seem to be a rhyme and reason there.

I run two or three sets at leach location. One a dirthole, one a post set, and if another set it’s something completely different from the first two.
I have a couple different baits I like and those go to the dirthole sets. No rhyme and reason there I grab without looking in my bag and apply what I grab, even on remakes. I used to keep track of what I used where and man that was too much thinking.

The post sets get a shot of coyote or fox pee (just two urines too). If I apply a gland lure it’s one of the three I mention above. No particular combo better than the other. If I have cats in area I like the beaver castor here.

The third set is usually something really subtle like a clump of grass nearby and it gets just a gland lure only and something not used at the other two sets.

That’s about as complicated as I get with coyote sets.

I do get about half my catches at the dirthole and most of the other half at the post sets. Even remakes. A small slice seem to go for the third flat set but it’s catches I didn’t have at the other two so I keep pounding those in too.

We have so many coon, possums, skunks, badgers, other stuff around here the multiple sets are important to keep coyote catches high. If I ran only one set at a location I never know what I will catch and probably not enough coyotes to call myself a coyote trapper. But the multiple sets I’ve had some crazy doubles and triples combos over the years.
My favorite was one winter it was cold, freezing rain, and last check had three sets…and all three had a catch. Location was an implement road right next to a small creek.
I had a coyote in the flat set, a small beaver at the post set, and a badger at the dirthole. Was an interesting triple.

I ended up getting two more coyotes there one in the dirthole and one at the post set remake. I keep reminding that scene to myself each season now. The baits and lures were simple but the variety and multiple sets helped make that an even better location. The natural funnel of the implement road was important to a lot of animals passing through there. The beaver for some reason went up the creek bank and onto the road and checked out the castor at the post set. Who can plan for that on a predator line? I got three cats at this location over three separate seasons. Post set and dirtholes connected on those. And I’ve caught a jillion coyotes there too.

I don’t have a ton of traps and I only trap 10 or so farms each season. About two or three sets each has served me well and I get very few checks with nothing to skin.

Baits I’ve settled on carrying just the two and I could probably do fine even with just one but I like two different ones and have a lot of confidence in them and that’s what I run with.

Jim

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Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8221612
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My trap bag will have two pint size containers of different bait types.
Two pint size containers of Gland type lures coyote/bobcat and one pint sized squirt bottle of urine. I don't like messing with the small bottles.
Keep it simple. # One is trapper skill and a few good baits and lures!!! Snares are a coyotes worst nightmare. I like snares!!

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8222564
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3-4 tops anymore and always red fox urine. Im a coyote trapper and in Louisiana that has been the best attractant for me.

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Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8222713
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I normally have two baits and a couple lures, I’m getting ready for this year and started looking at my stash I have several I have never opened. I guess instead of buying more I’m going to use a bunch of odds and ends to try and clean up my fridge. I must have a dozen jars of different baits I was going to try. Lucky I still have a half gallon of Katz red label, that is one of my normal go to baits.

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Re: How many lures? [Re: sportsman94] #8222767
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Originally Posted by sportsman94
Originally Posted by Yes sir
A trend I see is the guys that are professionals or catch big numbers for their areas tend to carry fewer number's of lures and baits.


I ponder this sometimes. I think, am I trying too diversify scents too much when the guys who really wear them out use the same thing over and over? Then I think, most of the guys doing that are probably covering so many miles and family groups of coyotes that they dont need to diversify. If you are setting traps on 1000 acres versus 100,000 acres then it seems (from my experience) that the coyotes can and do get habituated to smells and start ignoring sets. I think it also depends on if you are trapping a travel way where you are constantly getting an influx of new animals versus trapping a couple resident family groups in a relaticely small area.

Im still trying to hash out my thoughts on it, but in my area it sees that some diversity out produces using the same thing over and over when trapping the average sized properties that Im hitting. If every set is a new batch of coyotes I would be more inclined to punch the same set and smell in over and over.

Just my uneducated opinion though

To answer the OP question, I normally carry 2-3 baits, and probably 6 or 8 lures

Generally the guys who truly wear them out have areas with LARGE populations of coyotes. Those are the pics where there’s like 8 or 9 caught coyotes in one pic, lol. Don’t think they have the time to look through a bag for different stuff. One bait and a couple of lures and they’re off to the next location.

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8222821
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For coyote work too much of some gland lure may not have the effect in the beginning days of application as it does as the strengh of it wanes down a bit. Starting out using smaller amounts I get consistent good results. I generally stack two odors together. A touch of gland and a touch of food / curiosity lure or a bait.

Trappers tend to apply the over kill method when using some lures or gland lures in particular with coyotes. For cats and fox I don't notice many refusals in strong gland lure presence at a set. Baits generally can be used heavily without issue.

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8222831
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Use to be the trapper that would put 3 4 even 5 different things down a dirt hole and over the seasons found much better success just putting a good bait and shot of urine down the dirt hole. Lure mainly used at flat sets same thing one type of lure with a shot of urine sometimes spiced up with a coyote or fox turd haha

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8223055
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When I started out I carried 1 bait and lure. Now I have several of both.I tend to use more lures around February When the dogs are traveling for the rut.When that kind of slows I will use more bait.

Re: How many lures? [Re: jabNE] #8223101
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Originally Posted by jabNE
My experience was I just didn’t have very good luck with coyote gland lures around here for some reason.

I wonder sometimes if it's because they think they've crossed into another dog's territory and they're about to get their butt kicked.

Re: How many lures? [Re: GoGitter] #8223409
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What I carry changes through the year.

Late fall/winter, one bait and two food/curiousity lures. I do change them out every few weeks.

Summer I carry a couple good food lures, a couple social smells, and recently have taken to having something real obnoxiously loud/rank on hand for a rub lure. Summer coyotes are incredibly persnickety.

I always have urine with. I use more in the summer but rarely use urine at fresh, clean sets in fall/winter.

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