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Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey #8221952
09/23/24 10:14 PM
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Driving down the road today I saw a black blur spiraling out of the sky. There was a hen turkey with 7 or 8 half grown babies out in a field and a hawk smacked one of the youngsters and pinned it to the ground. I think there are too many raptors and I hate turkeys but it was pretty cool to see.


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Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8221969
09/23/24 10:38 PM
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Why would anyone hate turkeys?

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: dixieland] #8221999
09/23/24 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dixieland
Why would anyone hate turkeys?



never had deer ticks around until after turkeys started showing up in my area.

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222042
09/24/24 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SundanceMtnMan
Driving down the road today I saw a black blur spiraling out of the sky. There was a hen turkey with 7 or 8 half grown babies out in a field and a hawk smacked one of the youngsters and pinned it to the ground. I think there are too many raptors and I hate turkeys but it was pretty cool to see.


Wish there were a few more of those turkey eating raptors in my neck of the woods. Problem is, they like the pheasants and grouse too....

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: dixieland] #8222043
09/24/24 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dixieland
Why would anyone hate turkeys?


Let me count the reasons....

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: Providence Farm] #8222047
09/24/24 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by dixieland
Why would anyone hate turkeys?



never had deer ticks around until after turkeys started showing up in my area.

Never saw a tick on a wild turkey and I've hunted them for around 40 years. Maybe it's a thing but never heard of it before.


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Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222062
09/24/24 05:54 AM
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Ever see what a turkey does to a brood of baby grouse I have, used to be we would have grouse around even with in low years till the turkeys moved in couldn’t understand what happened till I watched a turner massacre a brood of grouse right in the front yard, didn’t eve eat them



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Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222081
09/24/24 06:57 AM
09/24/24 06:57 AM
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Love having turkeys around.


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Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222093
09/24/24 07:14 AM
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Have killed a bunch of turkeys over the years, and have never seen a tick on one. Eric

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222109
09/24/24 07:45 AM
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I never have observed a real bad thing having turkeys around. I have seen more positive things having them around. Now I can't that for coon and yotes they destroy more upland game and fawns than the turks. Just me 2¢


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Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222129
09/24/24 08:34 AM
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Just WOW at some of the comments, lol.
Turkeys don’t carry ticks or bring them around. If anything they eat them.
Turkeys don’t destroy other wildlife. If they did, they’d be extinct in the South where quail is King. There’s not a manager or landowner around that would have turkeys on their properties if they were destroying quail or their nests.
I remember seeing something like that in the Kansas WIHA book many years ago about the myth that turkeys destroy pheasant and quail nests and broods. I thought it was a joke until I talked to their version of DNR and they said that some folks actually believed that so they had to put it in the Regs.

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222132
09/24/24 08:41 AM
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Turkeys are an introduced species here. We never had any until the 80s when they were brought in by an ex Fish and Game employee. We don't have much winter food for them and they are a pest in winter feed lots, roost in barns and deficate on the hay, scratch up gardens and lawns, will eat all the fruit on trees in the fall and has has been mentioned are hard on grouse. They would roost on my moms deck and poop everywhere, she used to shoot them and call fish and game and tell them to come get the dead ones they were laying in the front yard. She still can't feed her cats outside as they come eat the food. All of you that like them can have them.

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Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: nightlife] #8222135
09/24/24 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nightlife
Ever see what a turkey does to a brood of baby grouse I have, used to be we would have grouse around even with in low years till the turkeys moved in couldn’t understand what happened till I watched a turner massacre a brood of grouse right in the front yard, didn’t eve eat them


Folks from southern states come up here to hunt grouse, they say the turkeys have destroyed their grouse population. Can’t remember all the states but Kentucky or Tennessee come to mind. I would like some real science on the matter because there are more turkeys here every year.

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: dixieland] #8222169
09/24/24 09:45 AM
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Thank you're lovely conservation for that, all they needed to do was dust the turkey's before they released them, there was no money in it for them so they just released the ticks right along with the turkey.

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: Wanna Be] #8222188
09/24/24 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Just WOW at some of the comments, lol.
Turkeys don’t carry ticks or bring them around. If anything they eat them.
Turkeys don’t destroy other wildlife. If they did, they’d be extinct in the South where quail is King. There’s not a manager or landowner around that would have turkeys on their properties if they were destroying quail or their nests.
I remember seeing something like that in the Kansas WIHA book many years ago about the myth that turkeys destroy pheasant and quail nests and broods. I thought it was a joke until I talked to their version of DNR and they said that some folks actually believed that so they had to put it in the Regs.


Ill take Nightlifes word...he says he watched it happen. A lot of biologists still buck the notion that wolves will drag a hibernating black bear out of a den and kill it. There seems to be plenty of folks that have witnessed those crime scenes as well. If you put put 100 percent faith in what biologists say and dismiss what hunters and trappers actually witness first hand, I question your common sense. Many biologists spend the majority of their time behind a desk....

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222192
09/24/24 10:39 AM
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Our turkeys will typically have ticks on them. Have seen them under the wings.


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Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: midlander] #8222250
09/24/24 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Just WOW at some of the comments, lol.
Turkeys don’t carry ticks or bring them around. If anything they eat them.
Turkeys don’t destroy other wildlife. If they did, they’d be extinct in the South where quail is King. There’s not a manager or landowner around that would have turkeys on their properties if they were destroying quail or their nests.
I remember seeing something like that in the Kansas WIHA book many years ago about the myth that turkeys destroy pheasant and quail nests and broods. I thought it was a joke until I talked to their version of DNR and they said that some folks actually believed that so they had to put it in the Regs.


Ill take Nightlifes word...he says he watched it happen. A lot of biologists still buck the notion that wolves will drag a hibernating black bear out of a den and kill it. There seems to be plenty of folks that have witnessed those crime scenes as well. If you put put 100 percent faith in what biologists say and dismiss what hunters and trappers actually witness first hand, I question your common sense. Many biologists spend the majority of their time behind a desk....

A pile of folks have also “seen” black panthers and Bigfoot too, yet no scientific evidence.
Now turkey may be outcompeting for food, but I don’t think they’re on a seek and destroy mission.
I’ve turkey hunted Idaho, I learned their populations are the highest where there’s no hunting or access to hunting. Saw plenty on private lands in peoples yards and everywhere I stopped to ask the people “hated” them but didn’t want them killed, lol. On one property I saw 9 strutters in a pasture on my way to timber company land.

I guess what y’all are telling me is these States collect more revenue from turkeys than upland birds because they’re going to protect their money makers.

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222251
09/24/24 12:41 PM
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I've been killing turkeys for forty-plus years, never saw a tick on one.

A 3,500 acre timber company property and adjoining 7,000 acre State Game Land I hunt has had a high population of both turkeys and grouse for decades. Populations cycle like anywhere else but there have always been an abundance of both.


Eh...wot?

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: Wanna Be] #8222299
09/24/24 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Just WOW at some of the comments, lol.
Turkeys don’t carry ticks or bring them around. If anything they eat them.
Turkeys don’t destroy other wildlife. If they did, they’d be extinct in the South where quail is King. There’s not a manager or landowner around that would have turkeys on their properties if they were destroying quail or their nests.
I remember seeing something like that in the Kansas WIHA book many years ago about the myth that turkeys destroy pheasant and quail nests and broods. I thought it was a joke until I talked to their version of DNR and they said that some folks actually believed that so they had to put it in the Regs.


Give it up man!
Lots of turkey experts around lol.

Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #8222325
09/24/24 03:11 PM
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Our turkeys are loaded with ticks.

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