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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: Wanna Be]
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Just WOW at some of the comments, lol. Turkeys don’t carry ticks or bring them around. If anything they eat them.
 Turkeys don’t destroy other wildlife. If they did, they’d be extinct in the South where quail is King. There’s not a manager or landowner around that would have turkeys on their properties if they were destroying quail or their nests.
 I remember seeing something like that in the Kansas WIHA book many years ago about the myth that turkeys destroy pheasant and quail nests and broods. I thought it was a joke until I talked to their version of DNR and they said that some folks actually believed that so they had to put it in the Regs.
 
What Reg's? And, what does it say? I can't believe they'd publish BS just because some ignorant folk think it's so. 
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: Line Jumper]
 #8222666 09/24/24 10:22 PM
09/24/24 10:22 PM
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Ever see what a turkey does to a brood of baby grouse I have, used to be we would have grouse around even with in low years till the turkeys moved in couldn’t understand what happened till I watched a turner massacre a brood of grouse right in the front yard, didn’t eve eat them Folks from southern states come up here to hunt grouse, they say the turkeys have destroyed their grouse population. Can’t remember all the states but Kentucky or Tennessee come to mind. I would like some real science on the matter because there are more turkeys here every year.KY and TN were Confederate states, but most of the South has never had many, if any grouse.  Of course the Bobwhite quail has just about disappeared.  But I’ve never seen any Blue, Ruffed, or Prairie grouse in any of the 5 or 6 Southern states that I have lived in or hunted in. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: BigBob]
 #8222668 09/24/24 10:26 PM
09/24/24 10:26 PM
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Wanna Be
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Just WOW at some of the comments, lol. Turkeys don’t carry ticks or bring them around. If anything they eat them.
 Turkeys don’t destroy other wildlife. If they did, they’d be extinct in the South where quail is King. There’s not a manager or landowner around that would have turkeys on their properties if they were destroying quail or their nests.
 I remember seeing something like that in the Kansas WIHA book many years ago about the myth that turkeys destroy pheasant and quail nests and broods. I thought it was a joke until I talked to their version of DNR and they said that some folks actually believed that so they had to put it in the Regs.
 
What Reg's? And, what does it say? I can't believe they'd publish BS just because some ignorant folk think it's so.They were dispelling the myth that turkeys kill quail or pheasants. It was in the WIHA book you can get. |  |  |  
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[Re: eric space]
 #8222674 09/24/24 10:38 PM
09/24/24 10:38 PM
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While baling hay I watched a hen turkey kill 13 pheasant chicks. Once hunted turkeys with a friend who shot a nice gobbler. When he dressed it out it had 4 little wood ducks in its crop. Grouse and quail became extinct here within 10 years of turkeys being introduced.What say you, Wannabe..?  More imagination...? |  |  |  
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: SundanceMtnMan]
 #8222707 09/24/24 11:46 PM
09/24/24 11:46 PM
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I will retract the killing grouse comment in my post because I have never seen it just heard that story. The rest of my comments are true. Mom and dad gave anyone who wanted to hunt permission and the neighbor allowed it as long as you killed as many as you could. He had a small feedlot where they were a nuisance. Fish and Game trapped 50 some turkeys off moms front lawn with one shot from a net gun. She can't have bird feeders for the small winter birds because the turkeys won't stay out of them. 
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: SundanceMtnMan]
 #8222722 09/25/24 04:02 AM
09/25/24 04:02 AM
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Turkeys are an introduced species here. We never had any until the 80s when they were brought in by an ex Fish and Game employee. We don't have much winter food for them and they are a pest in winter feed lots, roost in barns and deficate on the hay, scratch up gardens and lawns, will eat all the fruit on trees in the fall and has has been mentioned are hard on grouse. They would roost on my moms deck and poop everywhere, she used to shoot them and call fish and game and tell them to come get the dead ones they were laying in the front yard. She still can't feed her cats outside as they come eat the food. All of you that like them can have them.X2 
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: Wanna Be]
 #8222751 09/25/24 06:45 AM
09/25/24 06:45 AM
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So what y’all are saying is no other factors are in play, it’s all the turkeys feasting on grouse, quail, and pheasants that has caused their reduction in numbers? And what’s even more remarkable is they did it within a year or two?
 Again, if turkeys were that destructive there wouldn’t be one to be found down here. Managers of wild bird plantations would have a bounty out on their heads and extend it to the surrounding counties, lol. We have turkeys that’ll die of old age on the plantation I help out at and quail hunts are our source of income. Without quail, we don’t have hunts. Without hunts, we don’t make money.
 I can tell you from hunting Washington and Idaho, there’s no shortage of grouse where I hunted. Those jokers were drumming up a storm everywhere I went and if you flushed one it would definitely wake you up. I think there were more grouse than turkeys.
Cant speak for others, but im not suggesting that at all.  What i am suggesting is that adult turkeys killing young poults when an opportunity arises is not a complete myth as suggested. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: SundanceMtnMan]
 #8222791 09/25/24 08:08 AM
09/25/24 08:08 AM
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Very interesting topic and observations.  I don't have any knowledge on the subject either way.  I can say in my area and on my place there is a lot of pheasants, and we have a lot of turkeys.  The reasons we have some numbers of decline in pheasants are due to hard long wintahs.  Turkeys go in number changes as well for reasons also.  
 I can say it wouldn't surprise me they kill some birds because of their aggressive mentality.  I do believe nature takes it course just like any other game where they are on the food chain.
 
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: SundanceMtnMan]
 #8222838 09/25/24 09:39 AM
09/25/24 09:39 AM
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Watched a hen turkey kill a baby red squirrel month ago. 
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|  Re: Red Tailed Hawk-Turkey
[Re: charles]
 #8222935 09/25/24 02:06 PM
09/25/24 02:06 PM
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Had a turkey that would peck on my sliding door to announce his presence.  Wife fed him black oil sunflower seeds,  He could eat a pint a day.  One day he was hunting grasshoppers along a pond bank when he unknowingly walked up to a large snapping turtle hiding in the grass.  The turtle grabbed the gobbler by the leg a dragged it into the pond drowning it.  Ate everything but the feathers.WOW!  Now that is an interesting. 
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