Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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Every day I anticipate the dreaded call about a love one. Impossible to describe what all goes through their mind and the tormented (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) they live through when it’s mental illness. Too often the reality they live is broken perception. They can’t process information as we define as normal. Nearly 30 years of attending doc appts, therapist, psychiatrist, and s on. Mental illnesses is the most over looked and least treated thing in this country. Only a hand full of meds help or work. In so many cases, the cocktail of meds is o joke of a guess and don’t work. I’m a relatively religious individual and it makes me sick when I read the tie in to religion and as if it’s their “fault” and they are going to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). I don’t accept that at all. Just like when a cancer patient stops treatment. They are no longer prolonging life and the suffering by passing sooner. Does that mean they’re going to rot in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) too??
As for the OP, won’t know why. So many factors and speculations. All I can suggest is for those that are here with us still, have that person in your life that will listen. They may not understand everything you are enduring, but they will try and will always be there when you ask
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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I had a young man 17 years old working for me. This kid had life by the tail. Star football player. Straight As in school. His girlfriend of a couple years found someone else and he couldn't handle the break up. This was probably 20 years ago now. Weird thing is that I have dreamed about him the last 2 nights. I've always said there's no person in this world worth taking your own life because they no longer want to be with you there's to many fish in the ocean matter of fact talked to my grandson last night and asked how things were going with the girlfriend.he said they weren't together anymore things didn't work out and my reply there's alot more fish out there he laughed and agreed.
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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It is called depression anxiety or both. There is not just one cause. Stroke and heartache victims can fall into depression. Combat vets get PTSD can lead to depression and anxiety. It is real and serious. It is no different then any other ailment to the body. Except there is no physical appearance to it.
By some of the comments made above. You wonder why people are afraid to come forward.!!!!!
If you know someone who is suffering let them know there is help. If you are suffering from suicidal thoughts. Go get help!!
It is not cowardly to ask for help!!!!!
Yep. One of the main things that stopped me from getting help for as long as I did was the way people acted. Remember having conversations with family when I tried to talk a bout my problems and just got stuff along the lines of " Well you just gonna be hurting yourself and no one else so why are you telling me ?" " Well just man up already and just get over it" "I've never been so in happy I thought of killing myself so what's your problem?" " You look happy so you can't be that depressed stop complaining " Aling with being told to just drink like a man , go to church, pray ect.. Like clap clap it's wonderful you never have felt like this but your comments of just be happy and get over it aren't doing anything to actually help. Made me completely shut off from trying to get help. Honestly was just easier to put on a face and act happy for others so they didn't ask and if have to go though all that. Funny enough when I finally got actual help and they found out they where all at my parents and what not trying to talk asking why I never asked for help or tried talking to someone yadda yadda . Have talked to a lot of people dealing with the same problems and most especially men dealt with the same stuff. Even worse for veterans/LEO male and female. O you supposed to be trained and thought and all that . I talk to vets from Korea,nam and the GWOT who just plain refuse talk to family because that's what they get . Lotta people don't really care or take things seriously till someones hanging from rope or their brains are splattered on their bed room wall. And call that insensitive or whatever but it's just plain true. Anyhow.
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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Weak minded people there not a better life waiting for ya just pain. If you're implying that everybody who commits suicide goes to the hot spot then that's just plum silly.
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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Weak minded people there not a better life waiting for ya just pain. If you're implying that everybody who commits suicide goes to the hot spot then that's just plum silly. Mental illness is not being weak minded.
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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09/30/24 07:29 PM
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danny clifton
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mental illness like depression or incurable debilitating disease
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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Well if your ever find out , I would like to know, had some young friends knew them when they were born and watched them grow up, raising a family, had the cutest kids, Mom gets up one morning two years ago to get them breakfast the oldest boy 8 years old, does not come down, she goes up and finds he hung himself over the bed during the night, dead is as dead gets, see's a note say's he loves you all but can't take the bullying at school any more, good bye
Makes me cry just typing it out, how can one understand that ?? I'm no newbie to family passing having two of my own taken after an auto accident, but we had time with them and knew what was coming, they could not do it so the Lord took them back, but 8 years old and knowing how to hang your self, Geeez !!!
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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Huge lack of self control in today's society, see it 3veryday. Obese fat slobs everywhere, etc.
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Re: What motivates a person to end themselves?
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I don't know the answer.
But.., I don't feel remorse for anyone chosing to do it. I just hope they do it in a way it's not a mess for someone to find. Some people have Demons in their brains. Some may have health issues they are sick of dealing with. Some can't afford the unfricken amount of $$ it takes to get " help". Some just can't afford to " live".
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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