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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229269
10/05/24 01:07 PM
10/05/24 01:07 PM
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Last night the camp at the end of the road folks got back from fishing late the idiot followed them back to their place on his 4X4 and was yelling that the road was private the cabin owner told the guy they had already met before and it was his own property. The guy was hammered up he thought that seems to be the general consensus to most of this ordeal that alcohol is involved most likely.

Drunks are just agents of chaos if it’s not present they need to create it at any cost. Some of the locals are heading down to have a pow wow with the guy before he’s hammed up for the day but once hammered it will continue is my bet.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229277
10/05/24 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Last night the camp at the end of the road folks got back from fishing late the idiot followed them back to their place on his 4X4 and was yelling that the road was private the cabin owner told the guy they had already met before and it was his own property. The guy was hammered up he thought that seems to be the general consensus to most of this ordeal that alcohol is involved most likely.

Drunks are just agents of chaos if it’s not present they need to create it at any cost. Some of the locals are heading down to have a pow wow with the guy before he’s hammed up for the day but once hammered it will continue is my bet.

Be interesting to hear what comes of the issue with this guy. Some people have no respect for others or what they own. I don't let anyone hunt other than my son which is so little on the ranch to show respect for two other ranches that have to use a non-maintained road that we all use to reach part of our ranches. In respect for them and their hunting privacy I don't let people on to hunt. They treat me the same way and all are 3 and 4 generation owners and have the respect for each other. The one rancher has to use my land to get to his and have no issues whatsoever.

Things work a lot better when you meet in the middle.


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229311
10/05/24 02:22 PM
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Several states have well adjudicated precedents involving behavior and nuisances on property that adjoins or is close to yours. Noise and obnoxious... illegal...behavior on one property can/may devalue the property of others.

Your state may be different but it is at least one more avenue that you might explore. I believe these types of issues are usually heard in small claims courts.
Again, check for SD specific laws.


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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: white17] #8229314
10/05/24 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Several states have well adjudicated precedents involving behavior and nuisances on property that adjoins or is close to yours. Noise and obnoxious... illegal...behavior on one property can/may devalue the property of others.

Your state may be different but it is at least one more avenue that you might explore. I believe these types of issues are usually heard in small claims courts.
Again, check for SD specific laws.



This is my buddies place in MO that is having the issues with the losers next door. Waiting to hear how the meeting went.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229317
10/05/24 02:32 PM
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OH. Missed that. Well it's a possibility there too.


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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Shakeyjake] #8229318
10/05/24 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Can work the other way too. Our Federal licensed gun range will be shutting down after over 60 years. People moved in 1/2 a mile away and complained.

Big problem here too! The libtards from California move to Colorado, and other western states, , and start changing all the laws to make it the same as the place they just ran away from.


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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229394
10/05/24 05:01 PM
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In Missouri you cAn not land lock a property.


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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229404
10/05/24 05:14 PM
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Happens tho! I looked at several properties that were land locked, If you buy it, it's on you to gain access, You have redress in court, but it's NOT free, you gotta go to court, and you gotta pay pretty much what ever they want for a ROW and you may not get to choose the access route. So you effectively have a private hunting ground without the taxes.


Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.

Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Broomchaser] #8229416
10/05/24 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Broomchaser
In Missouri you cAn not land lock a property.



That’s possible we are gathering options now the accessor made it sound like it’s possible but we need to meet with the county attorney’s to get more solid/correct information. Might put in a toll road. J/K

Still waiting on the results of the meeting they had to see how it went.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229430
10/05/24 05:55 PM
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In Montana you can land lock land. It is absolutely the worst state in the union when it comes to land management. Private places lockup millions of land that is owned by the people of the US not the private rancher that can benefit from doing so.

You would think it would illegal but some how the state law can keep the land of Americans locked up. Montana really sucks in many ways.


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: snowy] #8229433
10/05/24 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by snowy
In Montana you can land lock land. It is absolutely the worst state in the union when it comes to land management. Private places lockup millions of land that is owned by the people of the US not the private rancher that can benefit from doing so.

You would think it would illegal but some how the state law can keep the land of Americans locked up. Montana really sucks in many ways.



on the other hand the federal government should not own any land other than what it needs to operate the government. Maybe the laws will change and they will give all the land to the illegals.

Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8229464
10/05/24 06:51 PM
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Well they had a talk with the guy he put the blame on the handyman who’s not there as much as the guy is there so BS from the start. I’d say he’s stringing my buddy along until the next drunken episode then it starts again. They had targets on trees and shooting in the direction of our food plots no backing just shooting wildly as fast as they can into the woods day and night.

Told my buddy to build a war chest of options for future use if needed, this tick on the rear of society needs to learn that his 20 acres ain’t the Ponderosa he thinks it is thats my goal. If the road is restricted to only entry and exit the ATV cuts that ride down by half so we will see what info the county attorneys can give us.

On the up side it looks like the guy will devalue the property so it’s cheaper to purchase when the time comes.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8230186
10/06/24 05:45 PM
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Kids on 4 wheeler’s tearing up the road kicking rock on the mowed lawns this ain't over yet. frown


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8230604
10/07/24 06:16 AM
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yes, the deer will get used to it,

Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8230606
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nothing worse than a bad neighbor

Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8230682
10/07/24 09:12 AM
10/07/24 09:12 AM
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It’s like the Beverly Hillbilly story all over again the people in the surrounding area are not rich folks just regular folks some of the locals are just getting by. They respect the other people around them even if some don’t get along all of the time it’s nothing like this clueless clown then shows no boundaries just a city mentality.

The place that was the rock incident the people that own the property drive 2 hrs to mow the lawn (4 acres) then go back the same day or next morning. We call it a “mow and go. “ LOL The neatly trimmed lawn is weed free and markers placed on the edge of the road to discourage people from driving on his grass that level of care is involved. These properties are the peoples everything they have worked for in life some hunt, some fish some just enjoy the peace and quiet it’s not a party spot not even close. The locals already want the guy gone as he’s managed to tick off everyone in the surrounding area with his total disregard for the neighbors. The older citizens are fearful of the wild shooting that going on at all hours day and night.

Since my buddy owns the original road the idiot might have a easement to get to his property but maybe not recreation use of that same road plus other ideas are being looked into the 20 acres will become pretty small is he’s restricted to only his property.


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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Providence Farm] #8230713
10/07/24 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by snowy
In Montana you can land lock land. It is absolutely the worst state in the union when it comes to land management. Private places lockup millions of land that is owned by the people of the US not the private rancher that can benefit from doing so.

You would think it would illegal but some how the state law can keep the land of Americans locked up. Montana really sucks in many ways.



on the other hand the federal government should not own any land other than what it needs to operate the government. Maybe the laws will change and they will give all the land to the illegals.


wouldn't that really limit the places you hunt , the rich would own all the land and it would be a lot like England was where people with titles owned all the major land and rent to the peasants until they wanted to kick them off.


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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: Law Dog] #8230721
10/07/24 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Buddy has 55 acres of wooded land we hunt and he’s put in food plots in, he’s put a lot into the place. A hand full of cabins along a private road with a couple hunters in the mix. Peaceful quiet living for the few that live here full time. The 30 acre parcel sold not to long ago to a total idiot it seems like.

He shoots day and night it was 9 and 10 PM the other night just emptying mags in the dark as fast as he can pull the trigger to make noise. He knows we are hunting and one food plot is close to his place not much hope of hunting there if he’s around. It’s his place he can do what he wants to do but as far as neighbors they suck.

The county assessor was down today the handyman was there working he popped off a few shots when she was looking around the area. Then he shot a few mags during prime time hunting. They knew we were hunting but did not seem to care much. I was walking back to the house and he stops and says he’s sorry told him to just keep moving it’s a private road. They might have an easement but the road is private so keep moving. If the don’t have an easement the could be landlocked if it continues. We plan to check with the county attorney to see what options we might have.

What a jerk!


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Re: Neighbors from the dark side! [Re: warrior] #8230728
10/07/24 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
At least here in Iowa you can’t landlock a piece of ground.


You absolutely can in Alabama. Waiting now for the cousin in back of us the get ready for her her next cutting. That longstanding handshake deal we had with her dad is now over thanks to her husband. The offer is on the table or she builds a bridge to get her timber out.


With the sad state of timber prices, the cost of building a road/bridge will eat most if not all of her money from the sale.

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