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You better be glad you missed it by 1 year. Most of the young men that served in Vietnam have issues of one sort or another. I don't see how they were defending this country from anything.  Just involved in another countries conflict. 
 My dad was there, and he's not blinded by what went on.
I know quite a few Vietnam vets.  I don't know of any that has any serious "issues".  I rather resent you making that statement!!  Pretty disrespectful of our veterans on this forum!No disrespect to any of the veterans on here. I didn't say "serious" issues. That's your take. Some have to deal effects of agent orange, wounds they may have gotten, or the things they saw and delt with. That's just the way it is. War takes a toll on most in one way or another. |  |  |  
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Sadly this is a wound with no salve situation and these men will probably die without ever hearing "I'm sorry". I didn't read anything you said as intentional offensive, brother. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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 A lot of draft dodgers went to Canada!!!!!  Oh yes I remember!!!!!!
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This book is the true story of a draft dodger who wound up in northern BC from Alaska. Speaking of nutz!  ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2024/10/full-56418-231714-img_0743.png) 
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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If your on  Xwitter,,,,,,”remember the fallen” is a must follow  Example   ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2024/10/full-20026-231769-563bb38d_7cc7_48b0_9f10_a81071341d93.png) If your not on Xwitter,,,,,you should be |  |  |  
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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One of the guys I used to hunt elk with was in Vietnam. When his tour of duty was over he said they were told not to wear any sort of military uniform when they went home or they would be subject to ridicule and harassment when they landed. Instead of being recognized as the heroes they were by proudly wearing their uniforms, they were looked on as outlaws. Shameful! 
 If removing guns saves just one life it's worth it. Then if deporting illegals saves one life is that worth it?
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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 #8231477 10/08/24 12:45 PM
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 Was in Viet Nam in 2022 for two weeks on a tour.  The people we met love America for opening up their country to free trade.  They do not like the Chinese Communist govt that they live under.Interesting  Charles.  Was  it  a  "guided"  tour  you  were  on ?   I was in  Thailand  and Burma  back  in  1988  and  decided  to go  to  Vietnam  for  a few  days.   Found  out   I would  be  required to  have  a government  'minder'  with me   at  all times   and  only be  allowed  to visit four  specific  places.   Looks  like  times  have  changed   since  then. 
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White, don't get me started on that. I watched dad struggle not with the PTSD which he certainly had but only mother truly knew. But instead with the stigma of the "crazy Vietnam vet" our poisonous media put out.
 It enraged me to see my father leave a room rather than accept recognition for his service. My father has nothing to ever be ashamed of and for others to make him feel that way has me ready to hand out retribution.
 
 He's 82 this year and has never once used any benefit he earned and won't.
  Warrior:   I  don't  know   who  wrote  the  following  but IMO  it  is  spot on !.   Thought  your dad  might  like to  read it  also. It  may  seem  a bit  political  but  it  is  actually  factual. "One day at the office, one of my young co-workers asked me how it was that I had served multiple tours in Vietnam as a combat infantryman and I didn’t get PTSD. My rather flippant answer was “I didn’t get PTSD in Vietnam, I gave it.” However, this PTSD question made me wonder what PTSD is and what the symptoms are, so I did a little research on the subject and found that I did indeed possess symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) concerning a traumatic and very stressful incident that occurred during my last tour in Vietnam. I was a professional soldier when the traumatic incident occurred and had accumulated over six years in Vietnam engaged occasionally in close combat with a vicious and cunningly capable enemy, but the traumatic event was not as a result of close combat with this enemy. One day when I was totally focused on closing with and destroying the enemy, something caught my eye, I looked around and found a new enemy had unexpectedly appeared behind me; it was the American people. The same Democrat Party who had originally sent me to Vietnam promising that, “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and success of liberty,” had now sided with the Communists I was fighting. They were parading in the streets of the United States under a Viet Cong flag, were quoting from Mao’s Red Book, and were spitting on and flinging insults at returning Vietnam Veterans. Then, a Democrat led Congress cut off funding for the Vietnam War, American combat troops were withdrawn and we abandoned a valiant ally to their fate. I was ordered out of the country in 1972, and when I arrived at Travis Air Force Base/Oakland Army Terminal, purposely in the dark of the night, I was advised to change out of my uniform and put on civilian clothing to avoid being attacked by the American people when I entered San Francisco. I was not at all surprised when a few decades later these same American people elected a Marxist-Communist as President of my country. Yes, the deep, burning hatred I feel for the Democrat Party to this day could be diagnosed as a symptom of PTSD, and I assure you, every Vietnam Veteran I know feels the same way." 
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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Speaking  strictly for myself   I don't  need,   nor do  I want  to  hear......  "thank you for  your  service"  or  "welcome  home" or  "sorry".
 
 With  all  due  respect....if you weren't there   I  don't  want to   hear from  you  about it,  or  talk to you  about it.
 
 But  it would  please  me  if  a lot of  people   could  learn  something  from it.
 
 
 
Thank you for letting me know that not everyone would feel that way! My generation was very detached from everything that happened. |  |  |  
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To clarify, I don't think anythings wrong with those who did hurt y'all saying we "we messed up". "I'm sorry we put you through heck!"
 
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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Don't   misunderstand  me.  I  am   pleased  that  people   who  are  unaware  of  those  events   may  be inclined  to  learn  about them  )))Yes, Sir. Thank you |  |  |  
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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One day when I was totally focused on closing with and destroying the enemy, something caught my eye, I looked around and found a new enemy had unexpectedly appeared behind me; it was the American people. The same Democrat Party who had originally sent me to Vietnam promising that, “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and success of liberty,” had now sided with the Communists I was fighting.
 
It's interesting to see that the same Democratic party who have been  Communist sympathizers for the last 65 years have now become war hawks and are all behind this Ukraine business and throwing American money at it.    Democrats  have been against every military action we've been in since Vietnam except for Ukraine. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Vietnam remembered
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What it is, is demonic  
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