Re: Can someone explain ?
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10/08/24 09:08 AM
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Also why do they allow cheap trailer at hurricane locations. In South east Asia the old wooden structures were base on telephone pole like supports thatched roofs, but it was all tied together and easy to repair the little damage done. THe last time I was in Okinawa it was a concrete island, every building was concrete typhoon(hurricane) proof. I was there in the late '60s and there was almost no damage. Now look at Florida and the south east- no change at all after all these years and all these hurricanes......I don't understand it, I guess if you have insurance you just don't care......jk
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Re: Can someone explain ?
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10/08/24 09:26 AM
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Also why do they allow cheap trailer at hurricane locations. In South east Asia the old wooden structures were base on telephone pole like supports thatched roofs, but it was all tied together and easy to repair the little damage done. THe last time I was in Okinawa it was a concrete island, every building was concrete typhoon(hurricane) proof. I was there in the late '60s and there was almost no damage. Now look at Florida and the south east- no change at all after all these years and all these hurricanes......I don't understand it, I guess if you have insurance you just don't care......jk I have to agree that I find more security in preparing for the storm instead of trying to change the weather cycles by how many hamburgers I eat !
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Re: Can someone explain ?
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10/08/24 09:41 AM
10/08/24 09:41 AM
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Also why do they allow cheap trailer at hurricane locations. In South east Asia the old wooden structures were base on telephone pole like supports thatched roofs, but it was all tied together and easy to repair the little damage done. THe last time I was in Okinawa it was a concrete island, every building was concrete typhoon(hurricane) proof. I was there in the late '60s and there was almost no damage. Now look at Florida and the south east- no change at all after all these years and all these hurricanes......I don't understand it, I guess if you have insurance you just don't care......jk Id imagine living in a concrete house in florida would be like living in a steamer even with AC. Especially more inland where you dont get as much benefit from the oceans.
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Re: Can someone explain ?
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10/08/24 09:58 AM
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While it may very well be just a photo op. If you have never worked or helped on something like this disaster. It can be hard to understand. I personally have never worked a disaster on of that scale. I have however been involved over the last 40 years with lots of various events involving lots of volunteers. I recently seen a news video myself of mainly group of woman unloading a truck in line. One case of water, case by case in a line passing one person to the next. I do believe that was a photo op for the press. But And there is always a But. Right? Maybe this group was cooks, or food servers counselors? Ladies church group?what ever. Maybe the person who would normal run a lift truck was doing something more important. Maybe there isn't even a lift truck available for miles. There is always more going on than what you might see on camera or in news video. It could be as simple as giving that group passing water, sand bags, what ever the item. A sense of purpose, a chance to keep them occupied doing something of seemingly small value while other things are going on in a more hot zone. Could just be keeping the press out of the way of something. People want to make these disasters a political thing. It's worse because it's an election year. When you are boots on the ground in an event like this on this scale. Logistics and triage becomes a nightmare there are overwhelming amount of moving parts. Lots of people want to help and deciding where best to use them is difficult at best. Unfortunately some times the volunteer you can't keep busy find the right job for. Just do nothing but bad mouth the people who have more important things to deal with..
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Re: Can someone explain ?
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10/08/24 10:01 AM
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Also why do they allow cheap trailer at hurricane locations. In South east Asia the old wooden structures were base on telephone pole like supports thatched roofs, but it was all tied together and easy to repair the little damage done. THe last time I was in Okinawa it was a concrete island, every building was concrete typhoon(hurricane) proof. I was there in the late '60s and there was almost no damage. Now look at Florida and the south east- no change at all after all these years and all these hurricanes......I don't understand it, I guess if you have insurance you just don't care......jk Id imagine living in a concrete house in florida would be like living in a steamer even with AC. Especially more inland where you dont get as much benefit from the oceans. Actually full cinder block construction was once quite common along the coast. If you poured and rebarred the cores quite strong as well. And probably the best of all for staying cool in the heat due to thermal mass. I lived in a cinder block house for a few years and it was easy to keep cool and to heat. Matter of fact the only heat was the fireplace. If I were to build today money no object I go cinder block.
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Re: Can someone explain ?
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10/08/24 02:55 PM
10/08/24 02:55 PM
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Also why do they allow cheap trailer at hurricane locations. In South east Asia the old wooden structures were base on telephone pole like supports thatched roofs, but it was all tied together and easy to repair the little damage done. THe last time I was in Okinawa it was a concrete island, every building was concrete typhoon(hurricane) proof. I was there in the late '60s and there was almost no damage. Now look at Florida and the south east- no change at all after all these years and all these hurricanes......I don't understand it, I guess if you have insurance you just don't care......jk Id imagine living in a concrete house in florida would be like living in a steamer even with AC. Especially more inland where you dont get as much benefit from the oceans. Actually full cinder block construction was once quite common along the coast. If you poured and rebarred the cores quite strong as well. And probably the best of all for staying cool in the heat due to thermal mass.
I lived in a cinder block house for a few years and it was easy to keep cool and to heat. Matter of fact the only heat was the fireplace.
If I were to build today money no object I go cinder block. My two largest barns are cinder block and they do stay much cooler than the other 3, which have metal siding. They stay warmer in cool weather too. Besides just being a photo op, having a team of volunteers, who aren't really where they can do any meaningful work, work together on something they can actually do, makes them feel better about themselves and unites them. Keith
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