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Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8192482
08/09/24 06:04 PM
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Junk it. No sense in risking your life.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8192496
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Dave, Lots of quality used trucks out there on the private market. Eric

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: BvrRetriever] #8192505
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Originally Posted by coonman220
Have a rot rusted spot on frame, on driver side, the bad spot is just in front of where leaf spring bolt onto frame, had on hoist this morning an it is right where hoist lift it up an must went thru it, there some metal left but separate some an holes from where hoist went thru frame an crack an rot with rust close, it is in a spot where impossible to fix it by weld reinforce plate an u have buy a section of frame at salvage yard an weld in, was told not worth it, has anyone ever heard of frame crack all way thru while driving on road an cause auto to wreck or fall apart on hiway ?


Fill that spot with great stuff, sand it flat and hit it with a good coat of undercoat. Be sure to undercoat the whole frame so it blends in nice. Then sell it.


Do not think that would be a very good thing to do to someone.
Dave, just junk it and move on - not worth getting in an accident and hurting yourself or someone else.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: Scott__aR] #8192516
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
My son had a late 80s S10 that the frame broke on the driver's side just in front of the rear spring shackle, didn't break all the way thru fortunate. He came driving it home, looked like one of those vehicles out of a 1930s comedy, center of the truck frame a couple of inches off the ground.

It's virtually impossible to weld an auto frame without specialized equipment and techniques. And then where is the next bad area? Toyota had a issue with frames rusting out, they ended up replacing frames in their trucks, complete teardowns, $$$$$ for them.

And Dave, now that you know about the condition, if you continue to drive that vehicle; if something should happen, you can be held responsible and the insurance company will not provide coverage.
that is exact same bad spot on frame as the S10 your talk about is same place on mine where crack an rot with rust bad

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: Nessmuck] #8192519
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Rusted out and cracked frame...means your truck will not pass inspection

And not safe to drive.

You can't sell it like that .

So ...junking it for scrap metal is your only choice

We don't have them rules here in Iowa unless for CDL vehicles.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8192521
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A few years ago I sold my truck due to a bad frame. The box frame collects crud on the inside and it has no place to go. When I bought my new/used truck it had a inch of crud on the inside of the frame. To combat this I went to Harbor Freight and spent $15 on a drain cleaner you run on a cordless drill and I put a 3/8s or so size cable clamp on the end of it. I snake this through the inside of my frame and let it clink around freeing up all the mud and gunk build up on the inside. I do this after a period of warm days so the stuff is relatively dried out then I blow it out with my leave blower. Then I fill the frame with wd40 or diesel fuel or somthing of that nature with a pump pesticide sprayer. I do this yearly before winter and it seems to be pretty effective. On the outside I fluidfilmed a few years ago and I just do touch up in the pinch points and spring shackles and what not.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8192526
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Originally Posted by Scott__aR
My son had a late 80s S10 that the frame broke on the driver's side just in front of the rear spring shackle, didn't break all the way thru fortunate. He came driving it home, looked like one of those vehicles out of a 1930s comedy, center of the truck frame a couple of inches off the ground.

It's virtually impossible to weld an auto frame without specialized equipment and techniques. And then where is the next bad area? Toyota had a issue with frames rusting out, they ended up replacing frames in their trucks, complete teardowns, $$$$$ for them.

And Dave, now that you know about the condition, if you continue to drive that vehicle; if something should happen, you can be held responsible and the insurance company will not provide coverage.
that is exact same bad spot on frame as the S10 your talk about is same place on mine where crack an rot with rust bad

Usually when one spot cracks , more start. My 2001 Chevy 1/2 ton cracked above both rear wheels, welded and bolted a plate. Lasted awhile but cracked 10 inches away. Good old Chevy swale, kinks in the middle where box and cab touch.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: bankrunner] #8192537
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Originally Posted by bankrunner
Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Rusted out and cracked frame...means your truck will not pass inspection

And not safe to drive.

You can't sell it like that .

So ...junking it for scrap metal is your only choice

We don't have them rules here in Iowa unless for CDL vehicles.


Must be some real turds coming at you at 50 mph on the back roads.

Some real hillbilly rigs I imagine...lol


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8192709
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I have fixed lots of truck and trailer frames. Really not a big deal, lots of guys say it can't be done. They are wrong, anything can be fixed. But you gotta know what your doing.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: Nessmuck] #8192744
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Originally Posted by bankrunner

We don't have them rules here in Iowa unless for CDL vehicles.


Must be some real turds coming at you at 50 mph on the back roads.

Some real hillbilly rigs I imagine...lol


you would think there would be a ton of just absolutely clapped out rigs but really not that many , probably no more than places with inspections , where they just figure out who needs to get paid to pass it basically sight un-seen.


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Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8193068
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My '02 ram has about six pin holes of rust on two fenders, two cab mount brackets are rusted, otherwise it looks awesome for 466,000 miles.
I use axle grease, penetrating oil, and on the paint I use a liquid wax.
Axle grease really helps [Linked Image]
The running boards stop a lot of rock damage, the roof flashing in the wheelwells stops rock damage too, I take them off every year and re grease any rusty metal

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Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232800
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The cracks an separation of frame in front of leaf spring were getting worse, I had look at again last week an no place to weld on, buy a frame at a junkyard to weld in a section, forget that idea, so end up trade in today for 2014, Silverado , off Rd, fully loaded , 114000 miles it, excellent shape, 1 owner, $17,800, minus down payment plus $4500 on my Colorado trade in, at first he offer a $100 bucks for my Colorado but gave more so I could afford payments , use were right, u actually don't get much on trade in sometimes, it sounded good but they still make out well, I told them what wrong it

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232801
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So it was $17,800 then you got $4500 for the Colorado which dropped it to $13,300??? It doesn't sound terrible if so. Is the newer one an extended cab or is it the quad cab with a small box?
I hope the new truck serves you well Dave.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232803
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At least you can say that you drove it I to the ground. If a lift collapsed the frame, you are risking your life as well as others if you keep driving that truck.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232806
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It is 4 door club cab, salesman say that all are nowadays, even colorados

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232809
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Way to go, Dave! I hope you have good luck with it. It sounds like you made a really good deal. Off-road means that now you can get stuck farther off the road and a lot worse. Good luck.


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Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232854
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Good deal Dave! I'm glad to hear you got yourself a better truck.

Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232870
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Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232888
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Glad ya got a truck Dave.

I bit the bullet this spring and replaced my '85 Dodge with a brand new Ram. First new vehicle I ever had for myself, the wife has had new ones but not me.

I just broke it in by driving it to California and back, lol.

Ram makes regular cabs/bed yet which is what I wanted.

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Re: Trapping truck question [Re: coonman220] #8232893
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You got a good deal on that truck Dave, enjoy it. Regular cabs are still made, just very rare. Usually work trucks (stripped) and beat pretty bad by the time they are replaced. If you want a new one, you pretty much have to order it in.

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