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Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Spike369] #8238218
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Originally Posted by Spike369
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My neighbor was out in Nebraska last fall and his raven blew up when he shot into the ground to unloadhe had bought new bolts and practiced with them when he took it in to a shop he was accused of dry firing it Nope no way then the tech asked to see the pieces and the other bolts wasn't much left but on the rest 2 of the nocks could be twisted easily they were the half moon nocks

You're not supposed to shoot a raven to unload it. You take out the bolt and use the crank to back off the string. Too much power.


How does a raven know if your shooting to unload it or shooting at a critter, or target?

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Providence Farm] #8238267
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Perfect opportunity to get your boy shooting a compound.

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Providence Farm] #8238269
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Looks like it was shot straight down into the ground

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Providence Farm] #8238296
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Trapset, I don’t understand your question. Raven x bows come with a de cocking device to let the string down/de (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) the bow. I’m pretty sure the nocks are Raven specific for their bolts but may be mistaken about this. Eric

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Providence Farm] #8238308
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PF,
When were the strings last replaced?

Local bow shop guy says annually is recommended due to the incredible tension.


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Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Providence Farm] #8238314
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Raven recommends every 2 years. Eric

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8238316
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
PF,
When were the strings last replaced?

Local bow shop guy says annually is recommended due to the incredible tension.




about two years or so ago. Will need new ones again after this I won't trust them if it's good to go after inspection. But since it an old x bow they will have to be ordered and made. so a few weeks down.


did I mention I'm off a month during bow seasion this year currently burning through a two week period now.. I can't be without this thing right now so I will be buying a new one it seems.

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Pafoxman] #8238320
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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Perfect opportunity to get your boy shooting a compound.



They have compounds the oldest has shot deer with his. Even though i started off bow hunting at 13 and killed my first several deer withba bow before I ever started gun hunting I now prefer x bow . Why? I don't have time these days to shoot a bow like I did when I was a kid. No movement needed to to draw. And heck it's easier to shoot more accurate. My boys were shooting 3.5" groups with it off a bi pod at 8 years old at 55 yards. Hard to top that.

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Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Providence Farm] #8238322
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It surprises me you don't have a backup. But that's not uncommon for the guys I know that shoot compounds and crossbows. They'll have a safe full of deer rifles, but only 1 bow. Not sure why, just odd to me.

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Originally Posted by k snow
It surprises me you don't have a backup. But that's not uncommon for the guys I know that shoot compounds and crossbows. They'll have a safe full of deer rifles, but only 1 bow. Not sure why, just odd to me.

Replacing cable-string every year or two on one is enough for me so I sold my backup.The meat case at the store is my back up.

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Mad Scientist] #8238329
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
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It surprises me you don't have a backup. But that's not uncommon for the guys I know that shoot compounds and crossbows. They'll have a safe full of deer rifles, but only 1 bow. Not sure why, just odd to me.

Replacing cable-string every year or two on one is enough for me so I sold my backup.The meat case at the store is my back up.

Lol

A couple hundred bucks per re-stringing...one is enough.


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Originally Posted by k snow
It surprises me you don't have a backup. But that's not uncommon for the guys I know that shoot compounds and crossbows. They'll have a safe full of deer rifles, but only 1 bow. Not sure why, just odd to me.



well everyone has compounds the boys have 2. they just don't get shot much these days. used to go through a target each month or two. don't get me started on buying arrows when kids are shooting an hour or more a day.


Now I don't do any of the deer shooting have not shot one in 5 to 7 years and the last one was because the boys wanted to see me shoot one.

not only do I not have a back up x bow I only have one. I have 2 boys hunting so need two. This one will be down if it's OK a few weeks at best so time to go shopping. sadly they no longer make this model. It was not even the fastest back when I bought it but it's more compact in length and width than the older ons were back then and lighter than the new ones out now.

I sure don't need the 1500$ + 200 a year for strings 1" 100 yard group capable x bows to shoot them at 50 yards max when a $600 model I like better has been doing it just fine for years. Just realized I have never shot a deer with an x bow. All the kids have but not me.

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Bdaniel] #8238405
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Originally Posted by Bdaniel
Looks like it was shot straight down into the ground



That's what I said. I agree. I don't think PF is getting the whole story. That bent field tip means it hit something really hard.

Re: came home and found x bow strings off cams [Re: Providence Farm] #8238435
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Sorry Providence should have been less specific and just said check the nocks Didn't know there were so many Raven experts on here but i should have not that it had anything to do with your post but this is a forum


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Looks like it was shot straight down into the ground



That's what I said. I agree. I don't think PF is getting the whole story. That bent field tip means it hit something really hard.


yet that would have driven the insert into the shaft not make it come out now wouldn't it.

he said the bolt was flipped field point facing him and beside the target. shot from 5 yards or so. Still have not found the fleshing.
the flat t spot on the point could have been there I robed it off arrows from their bows so it was not a new field point that has only ever been on the bolt.

Once thing I can say is my 14 year old will not lie to me. 12 year old I would question and have to dig it out of him.

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Did some calling around. A shop an hour away said they had strings for it in stock if it's OK to string and shoot.

They also have a very similar no longer in production model in stock for 599. part of me says it's worked for years buying a 2nd one makes since. But I do like the models thar you don't have to shoot to unload.

I like the excaliburs because strings are $40 and you can change them yourself. They also shoot fast as I want them to. But every their compact models are 8" wider than what we have been using. Definitely going to look at them more seriously now though.

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made it to the bow shop an hour away. X bow is fine after inspection same strings put back on timing adjusted. Picked up another pack of grim reapers, 3 more bolts field points had 12 year old draw length let out and 4 more arrows for him. Got home and started thinking I didn't get charged correctly. they only charged me $117 bolts and Brad heads were at least 100 then 7 tax. I'm sure the arrows and labor should have been more. I need to call them tomorrow and be sure If I can't find my receipt. Just found it I was correct. I was only charged for the heads and x bow bolts. that were 109.98 and 7.70 in tax. Going to have to call them and pay for the arrows labor and field points. or drive back down.

They had another old new old stock mission x bow the dagger for 599.00 I was closee to buying it because ours has worked well for about a decade. But he has some 10 point on order that will be similar in size 80fps faster and has a crank to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and uncock along with illuminated scope. so I thought I would wait to check it out. low light it's hard to see the cross hairs with the one we have. May be worth the 400 extra just to not have to shoot it to unload.

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Found the other part of the bolt today when sighting it back in

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got in from looking for sure if a hit my boy shot at this morning. he missed hus cam hit the Rail on the stand at the shot. he had reloaded it after the shot and this happened when he got home switches to field point and shot it to unload again. broke in the same place string jumped cam again.

called the mission guy thought the strung had been cut when I told him the string was fine he said only thing he could think of was the bolt not getting seated correctly like was posted above. That's always possible yet I have a hard time with that especially since it happened so close last week and he should be really checking its seated well. add in the boys have been shooting this x bow for years seems odd there would be a problem with them now.

But it has been the same boy and we have never had an issue before so it's possible he may be sloppy I just don't think it's likely. could be the thing is 12 years old and developed a small problem also or we got a bad batch of bolts . One other thing the mission guy said wad it's possible the bolts had been shot a lot and just over stressed.

At this point I really question trusting it. I was planning on getting another mission similar to it this week so we had 2 but now I'm thinking a 10 point or excalibur. I'm not sure I trust even using this Mission any longer. I will only use the new bolts I picked up this year if we do use it if it checks out at the shop again today.

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