. 243 for me

for longer shots I like my 7MM REM Mag
it's not the Caliber that does damage, it's the bullet choice you shoot.

The Bonded 129 grain bullets I shoot out of mu 7mm are Floaters out to 500 yds

put the bullet right...minimal damage...that's why bonded ammo

Whats past the 250 yard fence?. As long as there are no buildings inside of the 600 or so yard distance, about any 6mm or larger centerfire will be fine.

I have to agree on the 6.5 creedmoor. Make fun of it all you want but it's a versatile, flat shooting round with more knock down than the .243. I always felt that the .243 was too light for deer unless the shot was perfectly placed and almost too big for fur. More bullet options for the 6.5 and larger grain options.

Been studying long action 6mm.
6-06 ???
I have a good funny about CM,
another time.
No matter, this stuff is all American fun.

Oh stop all you pansies… Barret 50 cal, go big it go home! They’ll be DRT btw.lol

Ohio Boy, you're going to get everyone's personal favorite cartridge here. Me too. Lots of good 250 yard + rounds out there.

Fall of 2021 during covid right before deer season I was at the Academy store in Springfield Missouri. There was a kid in there from Mountain Grove, a town 50 miles or so away. I got to talking to him, He'd come all the way to Springfield looking for some .270 shells to hunt with. He'd went to Ba$$ Pro, then to Academy, they were both out. I felt bad for him, driving all that way for nothing. There weren't any .270 shells to be had. Times are tough when you can't rustle up half a box of shells to deer hunt with.
There were some.308, .223, and 30-06 on the shelves at Academy though.

If you don't load make sure that you buy is something the stores will have in stock,

There's ammo that will always be there, if there is any to be had:
30-30
30-06
.308
.223
.22 lr (most of the time. .22 got mighty skinny during the Obama and Covid years)
12 gauge
20 gauge
Seems like there's always 9mm and .38 special and .45 ACP but those aren't hunting cartridges.

That’s funny.

Make fun of a cartridge while saying you prefer it’s practically identical although slightly less efficient older cousin.

Not gonna lie ...that has always got me a bit.
6.5 creed isn't any better then 6.5 swede..
6.5 swede and creed are basically the same thing just more marketing
They been killing moose with the swede for 100years....
But their basically the same thing....so the creed should be able to take moose easy like the swede...
No the creed is under powdered and barley good for deer...
But it's basically the same as the Swede....so the Swede should also be under powdered and barley good for deer....
But it's not........
Creed is the new ( buzz word) for ( buzzword) ..... But the Swede is basically the same but older....so won't that just make it like..... The older version?

True that. Not much difference. It's like they re-invented the wheel with that 6.5 Creedmore. Ballistics aren't all THAT much different between 6.5 CM and 6.5 Swede.
In fact, SAMMI purposely downloads 6.5 Swede ammo to accommodate all the old 1893 Swedish Mausers that are still in use.
6.5 Swede in new production firearms can be loaded a bit hotter than what SAAMI shows.

have a 257 roberts (browning lever) ruger 1v in 2506 and a rem 788 in 6mm my choice is the 6mm from 75 grain to 100 grain if id of found the 6mm first the other 2 wouldn't be there If you don't reload new cartridges come out every year if i had to buy one i'd look hard at a 7/08 260 or243 that 308 case is pretty popular for good reason

Main deal with the creed is the chamber design and cut is just plain more conducive to just working. Especially with the higher bc bullets now days .

Which honestly when probably 70% of people just care about hitting something the size of a paper plate at 100yd or less..... Meehhhhhh

That being said ...when creeds are every where , with a large ammo selection of QUALITY ammo ( not talking the surplus m80 ball crap that's ran out) that's about as cheap if not cheaper then most other stuff .....

Idk more and more I just feel people don't like it because 1. The marketing 2. The marketing 3 the marketing and 4 it's new... Lotta 6.5 creed fan boys are pretty annoying thinking. It's the best thing ever......but then again we have the .270 crowd and their patron saint Jack O'Connor

6.5 Creedmoor is basically a 6.5 Swede that will fit in a short action. It’s also a more efficient case design so it does what a Swede will, with less powder.

If one had neither, one would be a fool though to go with a Swede over the creed. Especially if one doesnt reload.

Question is: Do.you want a short or long action cartridge? Even a 30/30 will work out to 250 yards if you know your ballistics. But, it's more like a 150 yard cartridge.
Are you going to reload or shoot factory?
Sarge

Sure. Swede brass is hard to come by. I'm needing some now and am going to have to pay 90 cents a piece for them, Creedmore brass is everywhere. New or used. I think you can even make them out of .308 cases.

On Swede's bigger case; Swede's case had to be that big to hold that 1st generation smokeless gunpowder. Modern powders are so much more efficient.

I like my old Swede on a 98 action because it's cool. See, when I shoot it I can envision myself right there along with Simo Hayha the great Finnish sniper, sniping and cropping back the Communist Hordes during the great Winter War.

The 300 weatherby would work but if your bent on a 6.5 then buy a 6.5x300 weatherby then.

I think the key is survival situation. A lot of great recommendations in this thread that will do the job but for availability 308, 30 06, or 223 very readily available.

I would say 308win will get you 250-300 very well and it is easy to stock , easy to load , not bad recoil , easy to find brass. easy to find projectiles in target or hunting.
long rifle barrel life

Just saying I have been anywhere that has .308 that didn't also have the same about of 6.5 creed

Nothing wrong with .308.

I still say anyone looking at diving into the world of long range shooting is best served to get a .308 and shoot the snot out of it.

Because that’s what it takes. You can buy all the fancy gizmos, but Lots and lots and lots of rounds down range (without worrying about having to re-barrel every couple thousand) makes the shooter.

I may have been slightly short sighted not including the 6.5 Creed, but in a survival situation if I were to go house to house in the high density firearm ownership state of WV where I live. I know I could bank on finding either 308, 30 06, or 223 in those households.