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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248019
10/29/24 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
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I’m saying this is the most intelligent conversation I’ve ever seen on T man!!


I think most of us are capable of playing both sides…. There are MANY folks on here with a tremendous amount of knowledge.

The Archives are a gem, as a resource to find trapping related information on here.

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248020
10/29/24 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
grin

I’m saying this is the most intelligent conversation I’ve ever seen on T man!!


There's a lot more like that in the archives. That's why everyone always sends the newbies there.

Wait until you find the one on handedness in canines...

your mind will be blown

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: MChewk] #8248025
10/29/24 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MChewk
Always wondered how the same condition effects humans... it has to trigger something?
I know for fur trappers it triggers a desire to be outdoors and to set steel...lol


My neck swells each year, starting around the 3rd week of October. Lasts until about the end of November….. grin

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248027
10/29/24 05:17 PM
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A friend had a small mink farm before the market went south. The last couple years he gave his pelters melatonin injections. He said they primed up earlier and was worth the time and money.


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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248028
10/29/24 05:19 PM
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Get your fur bible out and turn to chapter 54

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It explains the anogen catogen and telogen phases of the cycle.
All furbearers go thru the priming cycle,but it does not necessarily mean they will have a good pelt when prime.

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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248029
10/29/24 05:20 PM
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You'll probably read it elsewhere, but it's daylight hours and color of light. It's the same thing that indoor marijuana growers use to induce vegetative growth or bud growth. Long hours/bluer light=summer time and vegetative growth, short hours and redder light=winter is coming, time to make flowers before it gets too cold. Basically tricking the plant into thinking that it's a certain season. Animals use the same thing. Shortening daylight, lower angle of sun, redder light (from traveling further though the atmosphere) signal the coming of winter, and time to grow some warm fur.


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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248043
10/29/24 05:34 PM
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Gland issue turns on the growth, but no one has addressed the pelt issue

Glands only turn on the growth, its up to the critter to have great genes and plenty of nourishment to have great fur,
pretty simple !


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Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248053
10/29/24 05:41 PM
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It’s really a simple answer made complicated by fur sections and seasons that have nothing to do with fur primeness.

A lot of trapping seasons are set for the benefit of society rather than the actual fur being any good for the fur market.

For example early beaver seasons are to dub the trapper into taking beaver that are causing problems.

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: mad_mike] #8248056
10/29/24 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Originally Posted by elsmasho82
grin

I’m saying this is the most intelligent conversation I’ve ever seen on T man!!


I think most of us are capable of playing both sides…. There are MANY folks on here with a tremendous amount of knowledge.

The Archives are a gem, as a resource to find trapping related information on here.


Yes, sir, there sure is. But after 20 years most of us are just tired of posting about how many inches back and to what side a trap should be from a dirt hole LOL.

If someone gets me one on one in a PM with questions, I'll tell em what little I know. Same for kids or new trappers... I'll help if I can.

But, like most of us old timers, we're not really here to talk/learn about trapping... we're here for the camaraderie.

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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248066
10/29/24 05:56 PM
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A lot disappeared after facebook came along


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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248068
10/29/24 05:57 PM
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Good riddance facebook is woke.
Stay off there Savell

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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248070
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Boco that chapter is a little tough for me but I’m reading it! Interesting the effect that wind has on the air filled hairs and how it reduces efficacy! Guess nobody likes a blustery day

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: Boco] #8248072
10/29/24 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Good riddance facebook is woke.
Stay off there Savell


Naw, I'm waiting for him to create a new Jarvis Jenkins or whatever it was.... account....

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248116
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Everything is on the daylight clock same as growing season, less daylight means winter is coming. You being a cat owner as I am should notice your cats starting to put it on in late August

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8248143
10/29/24 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Boco
Good riddance facebook is woke.
Stay off there Savell


Naw, I'm waiting for him to create a new Jarvis Jenkins or whatever it was.... account....



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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: KeithC] #8248147
10/29/24 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I've always wondered how animals that den up during the day, so they don't experience any daylight, can be effected by less daylight, that they aren't experiencing. There has to be more to it.

Keith


Short of deep ocean trenches there are very few truly sunlight free spaces on this planet.


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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: KeithC] #8248151
10/29/24 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I've always wondered how animals that den up during the day, so they don't experience any daylight, can be effected by less daylight, that they aren't experiencing. There has to be more to it.

Keith

Think of it the other way around. Not how many hours of light but how many hours of dark they experience.
They are out more hours of darkness and denned up less hours during the day..... Time to grow a winter coat


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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248260
10/29/24 08:35 PM
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Manitobas on daylight savings time so our fur primes up a bit later than the rest……or is it earlier?
A good food source plays a role in how “nice” the fur will prime up too. Like beaver caught in February that had a crappy food bed made of pine or something. Ain’t perfect, but as good as that puppy will get until it finds a new home with good feed.


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Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248296
10/29/24 08:54 PM
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Photoperiodism is most of it. Then health, nutrition, age, sex play their roles as well. Sick coon, late litters, females that gave birth to aforementioned late litters,prime up much later than healthy critters. If they prime at all.

Re: What exactly makes fur “prime up”? [Re: elsmasho82] #8248345
10/29/24 09:22 PM
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Just because a furbearer has poor fur due to stress or poor nutrition it can still be at peak of the priming cycle with hair follicles full developed.Fur quality can be poor not related to priming.

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