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Re:   what heater to get?
[Re: Bob_Iowa]
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 10/29/24 07:55 PM
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Are you going cove heat or fan type?   Have not thought about it was just going to pick something at the store then thought I would ask here first because  of the  knowledge base and I know I will get the best well thought out recommendations and likely save me both aggravation and time.       the barn is for my daughters mouse and rabbit breeding area so she can breed them year round  and become the only  supplier for a few stores.    Now she can't beeed in winter hopefully after this week she will be able to.   Never dreamed I would have so much $ in mouse breeding.  
 
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Re:   what heater to get?
[Re: Mike Cope]
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 10/29/24 09:12 PM
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Mini Splits are reasonable in cost and would likely meet or exceed your needs.
  would allow for expansion.   don't they require 220?  
 
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Re:   what heater to get?
[Re: Providence Farm]
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 10/30/24 11:25 AM
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for a fast stop gap
  a clean rabbit cage with a 12x12 paver in it and a milk house heater set on the paver 
  probably run 2 and put them on thermostats separate and probably run two extension cords to two circuits , put a weather station in the shed to monitor temp and weekly blow out each heater with compressed air, not sure how dusty a mouse house is. keep everything clean around them.
 
  need to keep in the habit of monitoring them regular 
  you get a dry heat , 2 heaters if one dies or isn't enough, keeps it where is shouldn't get knocked over or anything get too close to it 
  as she gets more profits from the mouse business more insulation and better heat , better electric lines run to the shed
  hot water heat might be a good way to go , an electric hot water heater and a bunch of pex run under the enclosures so they stay warm and very even , a brass pump on a thermostat to circulate fill it all with antifreeze.
  eventually if this gets big enough get it on the OWB as it's own loop
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Re:   what heater to get?
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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 10/30/24 11:49 AM
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for a fast stop gap
  a clean rabbit cage with a 12x12 paver in it and a milk house heater set on the paver 
  probably run 2 and put them on thermostats separate and probably run two extension cords to two circuits , put a weather station in the shed to monitor temp and weekly blow out each heater with compressed air, not sure how dusty a mouse house is. keep everything clean around them.
 
  need to keep in the habit of monitoring them regular 
  you get a dry heat , 2 heaters if one dies or isn't enough, keeps it where is shouldn't get knocked over or anything get too close to it 
  as she gets more profits from the mouse business more insulation and better heat , better electric lines run to the shed
  hot water heat might be a good way to go , an electric hot water heater and a bunch of pex run under the enclosures so they stay warm and very even , a brass pump on a thermostat to circulate fill it all with antifreeze.
  eventually if this gets big enough get it on the OWB as it's own loop
  just thoughts
 
 
 
 
    I was thinking about hooking it up to the owb  but  like everything it's getting more involved than i have time for  now.  I do like your stop gaps.     Now I'm going to be lucky to get it insulated celling in and flooring down before temps stay down.    Another thing I saw  on line were electric heaters that mount overhead and should greatly reduce the chanc of getting knocked over. down side is the floor will be cold.  
 
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Re:   what heater to get?
[Re: Providence Farm]
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 10/30/24 06:52 PM
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Here’s the two types I’ve used but mine came from a dealer here so I’m not sure about the brand. https://www.homedepot.com/p/King-Electric-71-in-840-Watt-Cove-Heater-KCV2409-A/307678754https://www.northerntool.com/products/fahrenheat-ceiling-mount-5-000-watt-electric-heater-17-065-btu-240-volts-single-phase-model-fuh5-4-17303?cm_mmc=Bing-pla&utm_source=Bing_PLA&utm_medium=Heaters%2C%20Stoves%20%2B%20Fireplaces%20%3E%20Electric%20Heaters%20%3E%20Overhead%20Electric%20Garage%20Heaters&utm_campaign=Fahrenheat&utm_content=17303&cmpid=53403385&agid=3200075897&tgtid=pla-4577473071433086&prdid=17303&ogmap=SHP%7CPLA%7CBING%7CSTND%7Cc%7CSITEWIDE%7C%7CHeaters%20%26%20Stoves%20%2B%20Fireplaces%20-%20SC%7CHeaters%2FStove%7C%7C53403385%7C3200075897&msclkid=18391d189d611166be767a3a5816a20e&gclid=18391d189d611166be767a3a5816a20e&gclsrc=3p.ds  
 
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Re:   what heater to get?
[Re: old243]
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 10/30/24 08:04 PM
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If your building is,10x16 . Assuming it is well insulated and draft free. You will need about 1500 to 2000 watts of heat with electric.. A milk house heater is 4800watt 240 volt ,will require 10-2 wire to feed it. . Special plug . A wall mounted 2000 w heater would likely do, require 10 amp at 240 volts. and 14-2 wire. Likely solid wired.  Could be fan forced or baseboard .With thermostat control,  Safety is the main concern, with feed and critter dust.  I think they sell different milk house heaters here this is what is commonly called a milk house heater in WI https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/be...Gp0XdK8xMVAY-Xl4eMtPN1XlmvQaAjXLEALw_wcBthat may be a colocluialism but it is what I was talking about  it was commonly found in the milk house a small room off the end of the barn next to the bulk tank where there was a hydrant and sink to clean the milking machines.  
 
  
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