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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Vinke] #8248172
10/29/24 07:36 PM
10/29/24 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinke
I was out of town and can prove it

If you did it, I tip my hat to ya.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Boco] #8248428
10/29/24 10:14 PM
10/29/24 10:14 PM
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Minnesota
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Originally Posted by Boco
Your big game is likely overpopulated and doing damage to the ecosystem because of the lack of wolves.
Like beaver,another keystone species too few wolves is as bad or worse than too many.

Boco, All Species ,Need to be managed

We're Not being Allowed ....and Thousands of wolves without any Checks and balances is just WRONG


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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Boco] #8248447
10/29/24 10:33 PM
10/29/24 10:33 PM
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Indiana
Originally Posted by Boco
Sorry your irked,Im a trapper,not a farmer who pretends to be a trapper.Wolves on the land mean a healthy ecosystem.
I hope they catch the poachers and throw the book at them.


It's very obvious once again you have a very limited ability to look beyond your vast expansive wilderness with very few people. almost all your country's people live in a very small part of your country and the rest has very few roads and extremely limited anything there. You have no clue what is going on down here.

Last edited by Providence Farm; 10/30/24 10:35 AM.
Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248478
10/29/24 11:04 PM
10/29/24 11:04 PM
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NWWA/AZ
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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Way too much money spent on wolves imo , to appease the unrealistic utopia dreamland of a bunch of bunny huggers


Eliminating farming and hunting is part of their utopia, and wolves decimating livestock and game populations is one way to reduce/eliminate farming and hunting. Playing the long game they are.


Entirely correct on WDFW,,,,,
The new director is not good for the state.

Only thing good i can say is the union president is fighting against them and having to be a Cop,….


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Providence Farm] #8248499
10/29/24 11:30 PM
10/29/24 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Boco
Sorry your irked,Im a trapper,not a farmer who pretends to be a trapper.Wolves on the land mean a healthy ecosystem.
I hope they catch the poachers and throw the book at them.


It's very obvious once again you have a very limited ability to look beyond your vast expansive wilderness with very few people. almost all your country's people live in a very small part of your country and the reat has very few roads and extremely limited anything there. You have no clue what is going on down here.

Not my fault you country is overpopulated.
You ruined it not me.
At least some people would like to bring it back to health.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248500
10/29/24 11:33 PM
10/29/24 11:33 PM
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In wa boco it is to eliminate hunting, and increase government jobs…..


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248505
10/29/24 11:41 PM
10/29/24 11:41 PM
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I got no use for poachers nor those that advocate for them.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248511
10/29/24 11:46 PM
10/29/24 11:46 PM
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No advocate,,,,, just stating facts,,,,…..

Cattlemen also are not poachers,,,,,, they protect their herd.
State just hired to libtards to manage the program,,,,,,,,fail…..


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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248514
10/29/24 11:50 PM
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Point out where in the article those wolves were shot in the act of killing livestock?
They were illegally killed by poachers.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Boco] #8248516
10/29/24 11:51 PM
10/29/24 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Sorry your irked,Im a trapper,not a farmer who pretends to be a trapper.Wolves on the land mean a healthy ecosystem.
I hope they catch the poachers and throw the book at them.


I recognize the benefit that wolves can play towards population health - they tend to take out the old, weak, sick, etc and keep numbers in check. But specifically in western big game populations those numbers are watched closely and kept in check by managed harvest. I’d hate to see less opportunities for fellow hunters and myself because somebody thinks wolves deserve to be there.

Further, in Colorado as an example, the reintroduction efforts are being decided upon by urban populations who probably couldn’t distinguish a coyote from a wolf if they even go outside. There’s no scientific reasoning. And I highly doubt there will ever be an open season for managing those same wolf populations.

If a wolf population establishes itself naturally then I have less of a problem with it, so long as the state allows management activities. The fact of the matter is, there’s a lot of people on the planet. Anywhere there’s overlap between humans and wolves there’s conflict.

Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Boco] #8248518
10/29/24 11:52 PM
10/29/24 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Point out where in the article those wolves were shot in the act of killing livestock?
They were illegally killed by poachers.



So the media says,,,,,,,,,us media is Facetrashbook
……..


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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248519
10/29/24 11:53 PM
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Yea right.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248524
10/29/24 11:58 PM
10/29/24 11:58 PM
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That is ,,,

Ahhh right……


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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248525
10/30/24 12:00 AM
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Sorry Bud,thats the way I see it,thats it thats all.
As a trapper I like wolves.i like to have some around and I like to kill some once in a while when necessary.LEGALLY.

Last edited by Boco; 10/30/24 12:01 AM.

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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248533
10/30/24 12:12 AM
10/30/24 12:12 AM
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Wa is thinking about a session,,,,, but the director is a hugger….
The elk are another story,,,… the cash they pay the farmers,,,,,,, shakes head……..


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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248550
10/30/24 01:09 AM
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Well Boco haha

Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248553
10/30/24 01:24 AM
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Regarding elk and farmers.

About 30 years ago I had a friend who ranched and farmed (peas and wheat) in southeast Washington near the Blue Mountains, he had several thousand acres. Donny was a big advocate of elk.

I'll say from the outset that he was not popular with the other farmers in the area. One year he fenced off a few test plots in his peas to keep the elk out. Then at harvest, he checked the production of the test plots against the areas that the elk had access to. There was hardly any difference in the production between the two areas.

Other farmers in the area were getting huge reimbursement payments from the Department of Fish and Wildlife for "elk damage".
I was on his ranch the two days that he hosted the then director of WDFW. He allowed him and his son to hunt the property for pheasant and deer during their stay. He also toured the director around his place and showed him the test plots.

Long story short; to the best of my knowledge the elk damage payment program is still in place. Lots of politics involved on all side of the issues.

Don't even get me started on the "bear damage program" in timber country.


Last edited by waggler; 10/30/24 01:26 AM.

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Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Leroy Bob] #8248652
10/30/24 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Originally Posted by Boco
Sorry your irked,Im a trapper,not a farmer who pretends to be a trapper.Wolves on the land mean a healthy ecosystem.
I hope they catch the poachers and throw the book at them.


I recognize the benefit that wolves can play towards population health - they tend to take out the old, weak, sick, etc and keep numbers in check. But specifically in western big game populations those numbers are watched closely and kept in check by managed harvest. I’d hate to see less opportunities for fellow hunters and myself because somebody thinks wolves deserve to be there.

Further, in Colorado as an example, the reintroduction efforts are being decided upon by urban populations who probably couldn’t distinguish a coyote from a wolf if they even go outside. There’s no scientific reasoning. And I highly doubt there will ever be an open season for managing those same wolf populations.

If a wolf population establishes itself naturally then I have less of a problem with it, so long as the state allows management activities. The fact of the matter is, there’s a lot of people on the planet. Anywhere there’s overlap between humans and wolves there’s conflict.

He already knows all this.

Re: WA wolves killed [Re: k snow] #8248653
10/30/24 06:48 AM
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Boco is an environmental wolffie hugger


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: WA wolves killed [Re: Gary Benson] #8248697
10/30/24 07:18 AM
10/30/24 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Boco is an environmental wolffie hugger



No he is just someone that can't think about anything beyond his very limited experience. pro6 can't get off his knees at the pictures of the royal family long enough to learn how to think objectively. Subject are better off not thinking just obey and comply.

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