Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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Amazing to me that all the election deniers in 2020 somehow are convinced that this election was totally fair and honest. I mean, it had to be because Trump won! lol. We know better, no way Biden won this state last time.
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
[Re: warrior]
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Truly was hard to fathom Biden winning a blue wall state like every democrat candidate has won between 1992 and 2012
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
[Re: Pafoxman]
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Amazing to me that all the election deniers in 2020 somehow are convinced that this election was totally fair and honest. I mean, it had to be because Trump won! lol. The RNC recruited and trained upwards of 250,000 poll watchers this time around. it's difficult to steal an election when you're under that type of scrutiny.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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If you want to look at numbers, look at Texas the last 3 elections. 9% margin to 6 % margin to 14% margin. Trump did not have illegal immigration as his central message in 2020. Probably similar pattern in AZ.
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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A crime map in the USA would look the same with the blue being highest crime. At least would be very close But maybe we needed the last 4 years to see how close to the edge of the cliff we have come without falling off into the unknown of a truly fractured, kinetically disintegrating, great nation. And that may still happen at some point. We have the albatross of a national governmental debt that is now what, 150% of annual GDP, and really can't either be inflated or borrowed away. That may still sink us but at least it will probably bring most of the world down with us at that point and maybe things start over. We'll see. I'm sure many of you have seen these county based maps over various USA presidential election cycles. They don't change all that much over time.And these don't show "purple" counties that are pretty close to even splits, this just shows which candidate won the county, no matter how close or wide the split ended up being.Its basically a civilization-al split map, the highly concentrated populated places versus a much more thinly settled rest of the country (some of the much larger western counties can really skew how populated they are). A GDP map (money made from anything) would look about the same, with the many of the blue ones showing high GDP and many red ones low GDP. But just "making money" doesn't really say all that much, there's a lot of money to be made by pushing digits that have "value" around the globe every 24 hours versus actually creating value from the land. Anyway, last night was refreshing. Let's keep the pressure on the money exchangers and remind them that they may still have most of the coin but little of the actual land...
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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Amazing to me that all the election deniers in 2020 somehow are convinced that this election was totally fair and honest. I mean, it had to be because Trump won! lol. I don’t think it was fair this time. Apparently 14 million voters were held captive and weren’t allowed to vote this election.
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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Trump got about the same number of votes, but Kamala got 15 million less, riiiight. Maybe we should wait till 5 million more CA votes come in to figure this out? They have no total yet for the U.S.
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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Trump got about the same number of votes, but Kamala got 15 million less, riiiight. Maybe we should wait till 5 million more CA votes come in to figure this out? They have no total yet for the U.S. Voter turnout per State
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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Trump got about the same number of votes, but Kamala got 15 million less, riiiight. Maybe we should wait till 5 million more CA votes come in to figure this out? They have no total yet for the U.S. The fact that California has not finished counting votes yet and will not likely finish for at least several more days is a big problem all by itself. Their convoluted system geared toward making it as easy as possible for everyone to vote also makes it as easy as possible for fraud to occur. But that's beside the point. Even when they are all counted, there is still going to be a significant shortfall in the number of votes Harris received versus what Biden received.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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It's called lower voter turnout. Most every State that isn't a swing State had lower turnout. Especially the Democrat States, where it is so easy to vote. Still it looks like the total will end up being similar to 2020.
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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Around here conspiracies derangement suffers don't need homework. Especially on a thread about crunching numbers. I fixed it you're welcome
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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I agree the derangement seems to be that Democrats only win because they cheat and we can prove it by posting numbers that are not even totals yet. Even the total numbers are going to prove nothing. If the total votes in the swing States, where all these new reduce the fraud laws went effect to stop the cheat, showed a reduction in votes cast that might prove something. Unfortunately, every swing State has a higher number of votes cast in 2024 than in 2020. Check my math.
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Re: Crunching #s in the aftermath
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I also have questions about the difference but the shortfall is going to be 4 to 5 million, not 19. 155 mil cast in 2020, about 146 mil counted so far between Trump and Harris, and 5 mil more still to be counted in Ca alone. If you are going to endorse a conspiracy theory at least do the homework to get your numbers right, otherwise there is no credibility. I agree, let's wait for the final tally.
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