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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257214
11/08/24 01:32 PM
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Pro tip:

Stop looking for affirmation on the internet

Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257271
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The kid doesn't meet your standards. But then, you didn't hire him. Get used to it. Someone wants/needs him onboard.


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257316
11/08/24 03:38 PM
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when you work small crew vs big corp you are going to get a lot closer to people you work with especially when you are weeks on

try and help him , just don't get too invested in him actually taking your advice.

a lot of the advice you got here was probably directed a lot more at traditional work environments where people are there for 8-10-12 hours and gone and there will be a new guy to take the last ones place in a few months any way.


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Leftlane] #8257332
11/08/24 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
The devil made ya do it Trapperkeck!

Wolfie some ppl are barely affected by those things. They are like a swig of coffee to me. My boy who is your age gets heart flutters from 1/2 of an energy drink so he won't go near them.

I should do like 160 but I ain't no quitter! I run on caffeine, Copenhagen, and cheap cigars.


Exactly! I think it has to do with metabolism. If you have a high metabolism, energy drinks may not be for you. If you don't, you can probably drink several and go right to sleep half an hour later.


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257346
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Let's see, he's 19 and you're what? 25? And you're his boss. You're some kind of middle management and he's a problem to you?
Rather than bring up and expose his business to the brain trust of a large outdoor sports forum wouldn't it be easier and more ethical for you to go to your immediate supervisor'(s) and tell them you are having issues with this young man? Thought I'd heard you mention you were in some branch of the military. Ever heard of 'Chain of Command'?

Re: Kids got a problem [Re: yotetrapper30] #8257364
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Leftlane
The devil made ya do it Trapperkeck!

Wolfie some ppl are barely affected by those things. They are like a swig of coffee to me. My boy who is your age gets heart flutters from 1/2 of an energy drink so he won't go near them.

I should do like 160 but I ain't no quitter! I run on caffeine, Copenhagen, and cheap cigars.


Exactly! I think it has to do with metabolism. If you have a high metabolism, energy drinks may not be for you. If you don't, you can probably drink several and go right to sleep half an hour later.

that might actually be , becoming lethargic from overly high blood sugar , when you can't produce the insulin to process the sugar you get very tired.

so the caffeine doesn't seem to effect you might be that you are shutting down your pancreas and you don't notice it


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257370
11/08/24 04:57 PM
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lots of opinions and here is mine

If this is a performance problem such as he is on his phone instead of working give him a verbal warning. Next time report him.

If he is passing out on shift- call in a medevac asap.

If he just doesn't take advice (even when he asks for it) I'd suggest keepin it in your own lane. Us older folks see quite a bit of that out of the 20 somethings.


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257425
11/08/24 06:49 PM
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You got a good heart worrying about the kid. But we all have free agency to make our own bad choices. If you've already explained how his habits are destroying his health and possibly endangering coworkers several times, and in different ways, continuing to do it is just nagging that will not help either of you. If he is creating hazards tell the Cap and let him deal with it.


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257439
11/08/24 07:01 PM
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The recent energy drink craze will be the cause of type two diabetes in many of this generation. You can't keep slamming your system with those high doses of sugar without overwhelming your pancreas leading to insulin resistance in all your tissues and diabetes. If you're drinking any sugary drinks (including sodas), at the very least, eat a high protein snack (nuts, jerky, cheese stick etc.) with them to lower the glycemic index. Am I nagging smile ?


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257448
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Folks acting like I'm stomping on his neck or something to keep him from voting or take his rights away because I give two (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) about inexperienced kid ( this is his first job btw , heck still lives with his parents) enough to worry about him. ..
Yip, like I said..It sounds a lot more like control, than concern


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: T-Rex] #8257496
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Originally Posted by T-Rex
I don't know what the motivation is. I do think it sounds more like control than concern.



Sounds a lot like the mandatory helmet laws crew in reverse.


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Re: Kids got a problem [Re: Wolfdog91] #8257511
11/08/24 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
.....pretty obvious some of y'all have never had to deal with someone passing out due to too many energy drinks/ soda ....

If that happened on duty, the captain either knows about it, or needs to have been told...If nothing was done you have a lot more problems than just a deck hand. That should have been addressed by superior officers immediately.


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