Re: 12 year old letting them walk
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11/17/24 09:49 PM
11/17/24 09:49 PM
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MJM
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Here in ND you would be over 60 to shoot 22 deer with a rifle legal, at least, maybe over 90. It is all draw tags. You apply for a buck or a doe in the area you want to hunt. The longest I have ever gone without one is six years, putting in every year. This year makes three years without one again. Every year you put in and do not get drawn gives you preference points and your odds of getting drawn go up. After four years I will be up to a 50/50 chance of getting a tag. I have never hunted anywhere that was over run with deer. It is hard for me to imagine.
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: 12 year old letting them walk
[Re: jbyrd63]
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11/18/24 07:59 AM
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Killing machine!! Keep it up. With him getting a great start early in life he will be pushing 400 before he is 40 !!! Tell him great job !!! The young one hunts but is not into it like his older brother is. My 14 year old lives for it. I thunk the youngest will drop off in his hunting some as he gets older in life. He has killed one more than his 2 year older brother but he also dose not let as many walk. My 14 year old has let 39 I know of walk this year and only shot two in early season with x bow his 10 point and a button buck. Infact he passed on 3 yesterday on his walk over to help get his brothers loaded. said he didn't shoot them because 1 he doesn't like shooting a lot of doe on our farm and 2 he figured 2 was enough to deal with when it was going to get warn. MJM I could not imagine having to get drawn to hunt a whitetail. BUT don't you have more things to hunt than only whitetail like pronghorn, mule deer and even elk? if you could hunt those regularly I think that may be a good trade off. but that's comming from a 44 year old that has only ever killed whitetails and a ton of them. O and one boar pig in Florida.
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Re: 12 year old letting them walk
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11/18/24 10:17 AM
11/18/24 10:17 AM
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Congratulations to your son
That sound in the truck might be a loose lug nut Just had it happen to my car. Have you had tire work done at a garage lately?
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Re: 12 year old letting them walk
[Re: Providence Farm]
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11/18/24 10:51 AM
11/18/24 10:51 AM
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MJM I could not imagine having to get drawn to hunt a whitetail. BUT don't you have more things to hunt than only whitetail like pronghorn, mule deer and even elk? if you could hunt those regularly I think that may be a good trade off. but that's comming from a 44 year old that has only ever killed whitetails and a ton of them. O and one boar pig in Florida. You get one rifle tag for deer if drawn. Some areas, like where I am, a buck tag is good for mule deer or whitetails. Some areas you have to put in for the type of deer and sex. Moose, elk and big horn sheep are a once in a life time tag. You get one in your life if drawn. Pronghorn, your odds are not great of getting drawn. Last year 14,088 people applied for a total of 1270 pronghorn tags state wide. So just less then 1 in 11, until you build preference points. We have good big game hunting, the hard part is getting a tag.
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: 12 year old letting them walk
[Re: Providence Farm]
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11/18/24 10:52 AM
11/18/24 10:52 AM
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Good job kid. FYI, I have an old doe on our backyard trail camera she is a regular visitor and she has a messed up front foot. Sort of a club looking thing and hobbles on that. She can make it over fences but walks with a noticeable limp and hobble. She has had that injury for several years and I have a lot of pics with her and fawns over the years too, last year she had twins. She may limp but man she is a good mom and has raised many fawns. I’m guessing she has become ultra sensitive to danger given her limits and passes the alertness right on to her fawns . Deer are tougher than they get credit for. I remember showing pics of her a few years back to the neighbors and one commented man someone should just out her down. After several years of her around and producing fawns, sort of glad someone didn’t put her down. Anyway congrats to the boy for his successes. Jim
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Re: 12 year old letting them walk
[Re: MJM]
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11/18/24 02:18 PM
11/18/24 02:18 PM
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MJM I could not imagine having to get drawn to hunt a whitetail. BUT don't you have more things to hunt than only whitetail like pronghorn, mule deer and even elk? if you could hunt those regularly I think that may be a good trade off. but that's comming from a 44 year old that has only ever killed whitetails and a ton of them. O and one boar pig in Florida. You get one rifle tag for deer if drawn. Some areas, like where I am, a buck tag is good for mule deer or whitetails. Some areas you have to put in for the type of deer and sex. Moose, elk and big horn sheep are a once in a life time tag. You get one in your life if drawn. Pronghorn, your odds are not great of getting drawn. Last year 14,088 people applied for a total of 1270 pronghorn tags state wide. So just less then 1 in 11, until you build preference points. We have good big game hunting, the hard part is getting a tag. That would really stink. Noise on the truck is missing top caliper bolt on the passenger side have not checked the drivers side yet but seems to have noise fron there also. Waiting on my wife to get back with new bolts. I did tell him the doe may have had that limp for years and he got a look that was clear he never thought about that and then said exactly that. he automatically figured he saw 3 deer head that direction heard 2 shots and 2 deer came back and one limping and automatically assumed it had been shot. I told him don't worry about it I wanted a few more for the freezer and it was just as well not take chances on her. then told him about the year we could not shoot doe's until the last 4 days of season in that county and it was the first weekend and I had one come twords me that looked off. I saw doe and thought not legal I didn't see she was gut shot with intestines hanging out untill she turned and jumped into the brush. I had hears a few shots from that direction that morning. 25 minutes later 2 guys came through tracking her. I told them their doe was gut shot and where she went. They told me it was a 4 point then said it was not worth looking if it was gut shot and went back the way they came. pure trash I'm telling you. I would have shot her had I seen she was gut shot.
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Re: 12 year old letting them walk
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11/18/24 02:28 PM
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tell him you do the best with the info you have at the moment and no point second guessing the choice after.
he hear shots , saw limp , had spare tag , shoot deer , meat is meat
all you know is what you knew when you pulled the trigger.
not that there is any judgment here , just saying that is the jury instructions , they can only judge you on what you knew when you pulled through.
if the freezer wasn't full and even if it was and I had more tags and plenty of deer around I would have shot it limping , I might have shot others
I typically have someone who has said if you get more than fit in your freezer , call me.
there is always dried meat it keeps great.
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Re: 12 year old letting them walk
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11/18/24 02:39 PM
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tell him you do the best with the info you have at the moment and no point second guessing the choice after.
he hear shots , saw limp , had spare tag , shoot deer , meat is meat
all you know is what you knew when you pulled the trigger.
not that there is any judgment here , just saying that is the jury instructions , they can only judge you on what you knew when you pulled through.
if the freezer wasn't full and even if it was and I had more tags and plenty of deer around I would have shot it limping , I might have shot others
I typically have someone who has said if you get more than fit in your freezer , call me.
there is always dried meat it keeps great.
He was only aggravated because he was really trying hard to pass the doe's on the farm and then shot one. I told him I would have done the same. jerkey and canning it are great options. Caned our first deer meat last year after seeing post here on it and it is amazing. If I was not working on my truck I would be reading up on making summer sausage. I did and it was great but that was over 12 years ago. I have a smoker now last time I did it in the oven.
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