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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275372
11/30/24 02:55 PM
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Chiefs suck and so does the NFL.

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275376
11/30/24 02:59 PM
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275377
11/30/24 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
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Total QBR - All NFL
RK
Name
1

Lamar Jackson
BAL
2

Joe Burrow
CIN
3

Josh Allen
BUF
4

Kyler Murray
ARI
5

Brock Purdy
SF
6

Jayden Daniels
WSH
7

Jameis Winston
CLE
8

Patrick Mahomes
KC
9

Jalen Hurts
PHI
10

Matthew Stafford
LAR
11

Trevor Lawrence
JAX
12

Derek Carr
NO
13

Jordan Love
GB
14

Tua Tagovailoa
MIA
15

Sam Darnold
MIN
16

Baker Mayfield
TB
17

Jared Goff
DET
18

Justin Herbert
LAC
19

Drake Maye
NE
20

Kirk Cousins
ATL
21

Bo Nix
DEN
22

Geno Smith
SEA
23

Justin Fields
PIT
24

C.J. Stroud
HOU
25

Aaron Rodgers
NYJ
26

Caleb Williams
CHI
27

Daniel Jones
MIN
28

Dak Prescott
DAL
29

Anthony Richardson
IND
30

Gardner Minshew
LV
31

Will Levis
TEN
32

Bryce Young
CAR
33

Deshaun Watson
CLE
QBR PAA PLAYS EPA PASS RUN SACK PEN RAW
75.9 41.5 482 79.9 65.4 13.4 -6.9 1.2 77.2
75.6 41.4 481 79.7 69.5 9.0 -11.3 1.2 77.2
73.0 31.1 450 65.8 46.0 18.3 -5.1 1.5 72.7
72.3 22.9 398 51.7 38.4 12.0 -8.3 1.3 69.3
67.7 21.8 397 53.3 40.5 11.7 -7.6 1.1 68.5
66.7 25.9 476 61.6 35.9 22.8 -11.1 2.8 68.3
66.7 9.4 220 24.8 20.1 5.4 -3.9 -0.7 64.7
64.6 27.0 520 71.7 50.1 19.0 -13.6 2.6 67.6
63.9 21.6 438 56.6 33.4 23.0 -12.1 0.2 66.7
62.3 11.3 447 47.0 41.0 0.8 -10.3 5.2 58.8
61.8 8.5 339 33.7 24.8 6.9 -7.7 2.0 58.8
61.6 12.7 248 32.3 30.1 1.2 -2.5 1.0 67.4
60.7 8.1 361 33.9 27.9 2.1 -4.5 3.9 57.9
60.2 13.0 329 36.9 30.9 4.6 -8.3 1.4 63.7
59.3 10.0 434 44.9 35.8 4.7 -12.2 4.4 58.1
59.1 13.9 465 47.7 36.8 9.5 -10.7 1.5 60.4
58.2 9.0 396 39.2 37.5 1.8 -9.2 -0.1 58.0
58.0 11.7 396 42.2 36.0 5.5 -9.4 0.7 60.3
57.5 5.8 311 27.1 14.5 12.9 -7.5 -0.2 56.6
56.8 8.7 414 43.5 47.1 -5.6 -8.9 1.9 57.4
55.9 10.6 501 47.6 33.6 13.2 -7.8 0.8 57.4
54.4 9.5 525 50.4 42.1 5.7 -15.4 2.6 56.3
51.8 1.6 251 22.6 13.8 8.1 -7.0 0.7 52.2
51.4 1.6 507 43.6 40.5 0.5 -17.1 2.6 51.1
51.4 -1.7 444 34.9 30.7 1.6 -12.2 2.6 48.6
50.5 -0.2 566 45.4 28.4 13.7 -20.5 3.2 49.9
46.4 -3.6 459 34.5 26.5 5.5 -12.0 2.5 47.2
46.3 -4.9 351 22.3 19.7 2.4 -6.9 0.2 45.1
45.7 -7.6 268 15.1 6.6 9.6 -5.0 -1.1 40.2
38.2 -14.5 371 17.0 12.4 1.0 -12.1 3.6 36.6
36.4 -16.5 299 9.1 6.6 2.6 -13.4 -0.1 31.4
35.7 -11.2 239 7.4 5.3 2.9 -4.8 -0.8 34.0
22.5 -23.1 299 3.0 1.7 1.5 -13.8 -0.2 25.1
Season Leaders: To qualify, a player must play a minimum of 20 action plays per team game
How is Total QBR calculated?
Glossary
QBR:Adjusted Total Quarterback Rating, which values the quarterback on all play types on a 0-100 scale adjusted for the strength of opposing defenses faced.
PAA:Number of points contributed by a quarterback, accounting for QBR and how much he plays, above the level of an average quarterback.
PLAYS:Plays on which the QB has a non-zero expected points contribution. Includes most plays that are not handoffs.
EPA:Total expected points added with low leverage plays, according to ESPN Win Probability model, down-weighted.
PASS:Expected points added on pass attempts with low leverage plays down-weighted.
RUN:Clutch-weighted expected points added through rushes
SACK:Expected points added on sacks with low leverage plays down-weighted.
PEN:Expected points added on penalties with low leverage plays down-weighted.
RAW:Raw Total Quarterback Rating, which values quarterback on all play types on a 0-100 scale (not adjusted for opposing defenses faced)


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275382
11/30/24 03:04 PM
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The game is easier today because of rules. No qb today would make top 5 in 1990, and any top 5 qb in 1990 would dominate the game today.


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275397
11/30/24 03:30 PM
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None of these pansies would survive a season from 20 years ago, bunch of over paid prima donnas.

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Mt_FreeTrapper] #8275411
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Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper
The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win.
As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty.
Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . .

This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other.
There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.

So you disagree with pofarmer post above and whether or not the clock was running?

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Bruce T] #8275413
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
As Tyrel said to his brother Orrin in the western the Sacketts.....a little narrow between the eyes grin

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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275471
11/30/24 05:58 PM
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275481
11/30/24 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
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That's a funny one !!

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275558
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ADC you sure find some good emoji’s.

Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275602
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We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275635
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275656
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275730
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Mt_FreeTrapper] #8275747
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Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper
The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win.
As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty.
Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . .

This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other.
There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.

Well you have to prebait to keep the big gamblers betting


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275821
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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: martentrapper] #8275954
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Originally Posted by Mt_FreeTrapper
The chiefs really aren't the team they've been the last two years ~ and quite frankly, didn't deserve the win.
As a former high school and Arena football official, the illegal shift penalty call was incorrect and it should have been a false-start penalty.
Raiders should have kept the ball, might have kicked the FG successfully & been victorious . . .

This is why there is so much talk about the true legitimacy of the officials calling the game and whether officials actually favor one team over the other.
There have been to many incidents this year not to suspect foul play by the officials in some of the penalty calling.

So you disagree with pofarmer post above and whether or not the clock was running?


Yes, in football, after a ball is spiked which typically stops the clock, the clock will restart on the "ready" signal from the referee so the clock should have been running.


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Snowpa] #8275956
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Well you have to prebait to keep the big gamblers betting[/quote]

Well, there is that also ~ 2 biggest businesses are the NFL & gambling


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: ~ADC~] #8275959
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Evidently...the Chiefs suck at cheating....so they have the refs do it for them ...

Signed...Tom Brady


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Re: How 'bout them CHIEEEEFS!!! [Re: Nessmuck] #8275967
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Evidently...the Chiefs suck at cheating....so they have the refs do it for them ...

Signed...Tom Brady



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